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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom
      last edited by

      As far as the fax line, you'll want to keep a traditional POTS line for it. Faxing over VoIP is VERY finicky.

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      • thanksajdotcomT
        thanksajdotcom
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        Would it make more sense to just invest in an e-Fax system?

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom
          last edited by

          I believe the average bandwidth for calls is 100kbps both up and down for each concurrent call. So considering you have 10 users, even if you had every person on the phone at the same time, which is highly unlikely, you have plenty of bandwidth.

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          • NetworkNerdN
            NetworkNerd
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            Technically you could get an analog telephone adapter and hook the fax machine up to your PBX (register as a SIP extension) or just port the number to your SIP provider. It can work well if you have enough bandwidth, but as A.J. suggested, it may be best to look at eFax here if you can.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              This is a perfect opportunity to go to VoIP.

              @Dashrender

              I have a 15/2 cable internet connection (don't want to upgrade it) - would this be good enough to support SIP trunks?

              It depends on how many concurrent calls you have. Although a 2Mb upload may be a bit of a bottle neck.

              I also have a fax line at this office for a traditional fax machine I'd rather leave in place - would a SIP to POTS be OK for this, or would I need to continue paying for one POTS line?

              You can continue using the POTS line if you want but Asterisk now supports a single fax line for free on various distributions. So you could use the PBX to handle faxes, or give each individual user their own dedicated line which emails the fax to them.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
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                @ajstringham said:

                Would it make more sense to just invest in an e-Fax system?

                Not at this time as that would require the purchase of a scanner, etc..

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @ajstringham said:

                  Would it make more sense to just invest in an e-Fax system?

                  Not at this time as that would require the purchase of a scanner, etc..

                  You don't have some MFP at this location?

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                  • NetworkNerdN
                    NetworkNerd
                    last edited by NetworkNerd

                    If it helps, I have a fax machine used from a HP Officejet printer hooked up to a Grandstream HandyTone 701 adapter registered to a cloud-hosted Elastix PBX, and faxes work well on their 50/5 cable connection.

                    But I agree with Chad about the 2 Mbps upload being a potential bottleneck.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom @thanksajdotcom
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                      @Dashrender even if you do have to buy a scanner, those are a couple hundred dollars. I assume people have to scan stuff in at least sometimes now as it is, no? e-Fax is more about receiving faxes than the sending.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
                        last edited by

                        @ajstringham said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @ajstringham said:

                        Would it make more sense to just invest in an e-Fax system?

                        Not at this time as that would require the purchase of a scanner, etc..

                        You don't have some MFP at this location?

                        I don't have a location to send the scan other than over the VPN to my office, not desirable. (and the local drive is not a valid target - super old MFP).

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @NetworkNerd
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                          @NetworkNerd said:

                          If it helps, I have a fax machine used from a HP Officejet printer hooked up to a Grandstream HandyTone 701 adapter registered to a cloud-hosted Elastix PBX, and faxes work well on their 50/5 cable connection.

                          But I agree with Chad about the 2 Mbps upload being a potential bottleneck.

                          Yeah, the up is the only potential problem. If someone is on the phone and tries sending a large email attachment, you could have issues. Is this a DSL connection at that location?

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                          • thanksajdotcomT
                            thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @ajstringham said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @ajstringham said:

                            Would it make more sense to just invest in an e-Fax system?

                            Not at this time as that would require the purchase of a scanner, etc..

                            You don't have some MFP at this location?

                            I don't have a location to send the scan other than over the VPN to my office, not desirable. (and the local drive is not a valid target - super old MFP).

                            What is the make and model of the machine? You could probably scan to email and that would work well.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
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                              @ajstringham said:

                              @Dashrender even if you do have to buy a scanner, those are a couple hundred dollars. I assume people have to scan stuff in at least sometimes now as it is, no? e-Fax is more about receiving faxes than the sending.

                              You would be incorrect, they do not scan - our EHR supports uploads, true, but they prefer to have barcoded fax pages sent into their system, and this is what we do.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @coliver
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                                @coliver said:

                                It depends on how many concurrent calls you have. Although a 2Mb upload may be a bit of a bottle neck.

                                It might be a 15/3 - but that would be the max.

                                I think they have 2 normal phone lines and the fax, so 3 calls max.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  It depends on how many concurrent calls you have. Although a 2Mb upload may be a bit of a bottle neck.

                                  It might be a 15/3 - but that would be the max.

                                  I think they have 2 normal phone lines and the fax, so 3 calls max.

                                  You could probably get away with it if it is just 3 calls... but again if someone starts listening to Pandora while another person is sending some sort of attachment you may run into issues.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    It depends on how many concurrent calls you have. Although a 2Mb upload may be a bit of a bottle neck.

                                    It might be a 15/3 - but that would be the max.

                                    I think they have 2 normal phone lines and the fax, so 3 calls max.

                                    You could probably get away with it if it is just 3 calls... but again if someone starts listening to Pandora while another person is sending some sort of attachment you may run into issues.

                                    I'll kill pandora and all other streaming services at the sonicwall.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      It depends on how many concurrent calls you have. Although a 2Mb upload may be a bit of a bottle neck.

                                      It might be a 15/3 - but that would be the max.

                                      I think they have 2 normal phone lines and the fax, so 3 calls max.

                                      You could probably get away with it if it is just 3 calls... but again if someone starts listening to Pandora while another person is sending some sort of attachment you may run into issues.

                                      I'll kill pandora and all other streaming services at the sonicwall.

                                      Good luck I would have a riot on my hands if we attempted to do that here...

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @ajstringham said:

                                        @Dashrender even if you do have to buy a scanner, those are a couple hundred dollars. I assume people have to scan stuff in at least sometimes now as it is, no? e-Fax is more about receiving faxes than the sending.

                                        You would be incorrect, they do not scan - our EHR supports uploads, true, but they prefer to have barcoded fax pages sent into their system, and this is what we do.

                                        Wow. That's really weird...well, all in all, it might be easiest to spend the little bit of money it takes for a POTS line to maintain it just for the fax.

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                                        • thanksajdotcomT
                                          thanksajdotcom @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          It depends on how many concurrent calls you have. Although a 2Mb upload may be a bit of a bottle neck.

                                          It might be a 15/3 - but that would be the max.

                                          I think they have 2 normal phone lines and the fax, so 3 calls max.

                                          You could probably get away with it if it is just 3 calls... but again if someone starts listening to Pandora while another person is sending some sort of attachment you may run into issues.

                                          I'll kill pandora and all other streaming services at the sonicwall.

                                          Good luck I would have a riot on my hands if we attempted to do that here...

                                          Why not just QoS it? Once you get this setup, allocate SIP traffic as highest priority on the network and then filter down from there, with sites like Spotify and Pandora having lowest priority.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            It depends on how many concurrent calls you have. Although a 2Mb upload may be a bit of a bottle neck.

                                            It might be a 15/3 - but that would be the max.

                                            I think they have 2 normal phone lines and the fax, so 3 calls max.

                                            You could probably get away with it if it is just 3 calls... but again if someone starts listening to Pandora while another person is sending some sort of attachment you may run into issues.

                                            I'll kill pandora and all other streaming services at the sonicwall.

                                            Good luck I would have a riot on my hands if we attempted to do that here...

                                            Luckily it's our corporate policy - no streaming unless it's for an approved webinar, etc.

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