DuoLingo Challenge
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63 normal skills. Then the three huge conversation pieces that don’t exist for other languages. Then the massive bots system than is only one or two languages.
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Here you can see two of the big conversation skill groups.
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This is what the bots look like. They are each worth about 3+ skills.
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@scottalanmiller said in DuoLingo Challenge:
63 normal skills. Then the three huge conversation pieces that don’t exist for other languages. Then the massive bots system than is only one or two languages.
Then how is it you can't get past 60%? That seems like more than enough, especially if I've hit 40% after completing 16 of 66?
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@tim_g said in DuoLingo Challenge:
@scottalanmiller said in DuoLingo Challenge:
63 normal skills. Then the three huge conversation pieces that don’t exist for other languages. Then the massive bots system than is only one or two languages.
Then how is it you can't get past 60%? That seems like more than enough, especially if I've hit 40% after completing 16 of 66?
That makes no sense since I was at that point a long time ago. You are saying that "doing what I already did" would get me past 60%. But obviously I've long ago done that and it got me to around 40%. I've had to just keep chugging away at keeping my gold up to slowly gain one percentage point every few days.
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@scottalanmiller said in DuoLingo Challenge:
@tim_g said in DuoLingo Challenge:
@scottalanmiller said in DuoLingo Challenge:
63 normal skills. Then the three huge conversation pieces that don’t exist for other languages. Then the massive bots system than is only one or two languages.
Then how is it you can't get past 60%? That seems like more than enough, especially if I've hit 40% after completing 16 of 66?
That makes no sense since I was at that point a long time ago. You are saying that "doing what I already did" would get me past 60%. But obviously I've long ago done that and it got me to around 40%. I've had to just keep chugging away at keeping my gold up to slowly gain one percentage point every few days.
No what I"m saying is that I completed 16 skills, which got me to 40% fluent. I would assume that completing 66/66 skills would get me to 100%, or at least close to it, where maintaining it for a month or two would take it to 100%.
What I don't understand is that if you completed your entire Spanish lesson (all 63 skills), and that only got you to roughly 60%, then that means it's impossible to get much more untill they add more content / skills to complete.
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, and you already got to 100% fluency, stopped doing it for awhile, went back down, and now can't get it back up to 100% again...?
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@tim_g said in DuoLingo Challenge:
No what I"m saying is that I completed 16 skills, which got me to 40% fluent. I would assume that completing 66/66 skills would get me to 100%, or at least close to it, where maintaining it for a month or two would take it to 100%.
It doesn't work that way at all. Completing 100% of Italian gets you to around 34% Fluency. Completely Spanish gets you to around 42%. All other languages are less than Spanish when maxed because they have so much less.
Since I've completed all 66, and it doesn't get you anywhere close to 60%, even if you complete all the option stuff and things that aren't the skills, it definitely doesn't get you there.
There is no way to get to 100%, that we know. But I know that Maggie can get to 64% on French.
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@tim_g said in DuoLingo Challenge:
What I don't understand is that if you completed your entire Spanish lesson (all 63 skills), and that only got you to roughly 60%, then that means it's impossible to get much more untill they add more content / skills to complete.
It doesn't get you anywhere near 60%. It's been months of me maintaining 100% completetion with 100% gold on every possible thing to slowly gain one percent here and there. I'm on a 72 day streak, I was basically maxed out when I started it.
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@tim_g said in DuoLingo Challenge:
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, and you already got to 100% fluency, stopped doing it for awhile, went back down, and now can't get it back up to 100% again...?
No, I've been 100% "down", but fluency is very slowly increasing.
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So upon me completing my entire lesson consisting of 66 skills, I shouldn't expect to get past ~60%, even though after completing 16 skills I'm sitting at 40% with all 16 of them being gold?
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@tim_g said in DuoLingo Challenge:
So upon me completing my entire lesson consisting of 66 skills, I shouldn't expect to get past ~60%, even though after completing 16 skills I'm sitting at 40% with all 16 of them being gold?
You shouldn't expect to get anywhere close because you are not doing Spanish, French or German, the languages with the highest fluency potential on DuoLingo.
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@tim_g said in DuoLingo Challenge:
... even though after completing 16 skills I'm sitting at 40% with all 16 of them being gold?
This is a constant complaint in DL forums. The fluency seems to be capricious, it goes up and down (I lose a percentage almost every day and work all day to earn it back), isn't reflected in anything obvious that you do, other than normally it goes up as you continue to work hard. But at some point, say if you do four lessons every day, it will start decreasing rather than increasing even if you do it every day without fail.
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@scottalanmiller said in DuoLingo Challenge:
@tim_g said in DuoLingo Challenge:
... even though after completing 16 skills I'm sitting at 40% with all 16 of them being gold?
This is a constant complaint in DL forums. The fluency seems to be capricious, it goes up and down (I lose a percentage almost every day and work all day to earn it back), isn't reflected in anything obvious that you do, other than normally it goes up as you continue to work hard. But at some point, say if you do four lessons every day, it will start decreasing rather than increasing even if you do it every day without fail.
I hit 40% last night, and it's still there.
I don't think it should be, because I forget some of the stuff I learned (due to lack of speaking it IRL). If it went down after learning new lessons, as it should, it will help me to retain what I learn by having me practice it.
But once it is engraved in my brain and unforgettable, (like with the beginning lessons), it should rarely need strengthening which seems to be working fine.... at least for the language I'm doing.
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Finally....
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@scottalanmiller Are you liking Mango Languages? My library offers it as well.
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@fuznutz04 said in DuoLingo Challenge:
@scottalanmiller Are you liking Mango Languages? My library offers it as well.
Yes, a lot. It's very good at actually teaching the language.
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@scottalanmiller yeah i was testing out a lesson last night. There is a clear distinction between mango and duo. I like both, but different approaches for sure.
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@fuznutz04 said in DuoLingo Challenge:
@scottalanmiller yeah i was testing out a lesson last night. There is a clear distinction between mango and duo. I like both, but different approaches for sure.
That's why I do both. One is drilling, one is teaching.
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How is this an alternative?
