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      smartkid808
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      Need some ideas for my home backup.

      Just got a new Synology RS816 since my Drobo was dieing (and died while moving data off of it). Luckily I got my important stuff and MS ISOs off... I am going to most likely backup to Amazon Drive.

      Photos will go unencrypted using Cloud Sync (photos don't get counted against storage). The rest of the stuff, I am not sure yet.. Altho if I get hit by malware, my backup on Amazon will probably be trashed. Right? Since its an immediate sync? Maybe I should also do an encrypted backup of everything. Right now I am thinking out-loud, but if any of you have any ideas, let me know. I will also be saving/syncing my brothers stuff to my NAS (off site), then off site. He will start having a lot of pics and vids. Most likely getting him a Rebel t7i for xmas. Amazons Photo library (online) also looks pretty nice. Any ideas on how I should set my backup? currently I have maybe 50gb Photos. 200gb videos, and 1.5tb in other stuff

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        wrx7m
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        You can setup Glacier (and even s3) scheduled backup within the synology interface by using the Glacier Backup package. Here is some info on the S3 backups:
        https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/features/2638-how-to-back-up-a-synology-nas-device-to-the-amazon-s3-backup-sevice/

        Also, you can turn on versioning for the Amazon bucket and that should allow you to recover a previous version if you have an issue where the amazon-stored files are overwritten.

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          smartkid808
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          Thanks wrx7m, but I was looking at Amazon Drive, not Glacier. I don't like S3 costs, nor Glaciers download costs. So I am between Amazon Drive, and BackBlaze B2. B2 allows them to send me a drive up to about 4tb for a small fee in the event of failure. Link also is an older version of DSM.

          This is for home, so I don't want to pay $100 a month.. Im more so looking for ideas to come up with the best backup/DR strategy.

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            wrx7m @smartkid808
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            @smartkid808 Glacier is way cheaper than that - 2TB is $8.20 per month
            http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html

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              smartkid808
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              @wrx7m , thanks.. Yea, I saw that.. I'm just worried if I have to retrieve, i don't want to have to spend $500 to get it.. But I guess the likelihood would be slim. The pricing structure is just confusing (and scary). Amazon Drive I estimated @ $5 TB/month.

              How is the upload speed with Glacier?

              And I was being sarcastic with $100/month 🙂

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                scottalanmiller
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                Glacier should be the cheapest option. Amazon Drive caps out at 1TB. Glacier is nearly free at that size.

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  I like BackBlaze B2 a lot.

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                    scottalanmiller
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                    For comparison....

                    Amazon Drive is $5/mo for up to 1TB
                    Amazon Glacier is Fifty CENTS per month for 1TB and you can go as big as you like.

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                      smartkid808 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller Thanks.. Drive looks like it caps at 30TB now. but yea $5/mo

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                        smartkid808
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                        I'll prob go glacier.. will look a little more

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                          smartkid808 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Synology Backup:

                          Amazon Glacier is Fifty CENTS per month for 1TB and you can go as big as you like.

                          Also, where you getting 50 cents from? I'm still getting about $4. $0.004/GB / Month..

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                            dbeato
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                            Though requests from S3 and Glacier are expensive when restoring/retrieving and pulls down

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                              scottalanmiller @smartkid808
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                              @smartkid808 said in Synology Backup:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Synology Backup:

                              Amazon Glacier is Fifty CENTS per month for 1TB and you can go as big as you like.

                              Also, where you getting 50 cents from? I'm still getting about $4. $0.004/GB / Month..

                              $.004 x 1024 and round a little.

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                                scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                                @dbeato said in Synology Backup:

                                Though requests from S3 and Glacier are expensive when restoring/retrieving and pulls down

                                "Expensive" isn't an appropriate term there. Considering the average restore is something like once a decade, it's dirt cheap.

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                                  dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller "Costly"? Worth the money for your data, I am assuming that's what you mean.

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                                    smartkid808 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller OK, Im getting .004*1024 = $4.10.. Am i missing something, or calculating wrong, or is it $.50/TB.

                                    I am with you on recovery.. Hopefully its never, but even then, my current NAS that died is 7 years old, which I got for free from Drobo on SW..

                                    @scottalanmiller, Have you used any of the Synology built in apps to back up to glacier?

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                                      scottalanmiller @smartkid808
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                                      @smartkid808 said in Synology Backup:

                                      @scottalanmiller, Have you used any of the Synology built in apps to back up to glacier?

                                      I have not.

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                                        scottalanmiller @smartkid808
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                                        @smartkid808 said in Synology Backup:

                                        I am with you on recovery.. Hopefully its never, but even then, my current NAS that died is 7 years old, which I got for free from Drobo on SW..

                                        Seven years on an entry level consumer device is pretty good. The average lifespan of those is way under what you get from ReadyNAS or Synology or a SAM-SD. Move up to SMB Business class, and your average should hit 10+ years.

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                                          scottalanmiller @smartkid808
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                                          @smartkid808 said in Synology Backup:

                                          @scottalanmiller OK, Im getting .004*1024 = $4.10.. Am i missing something, or calculating wrong, or is it $.50/TB.

                                          Oops, bad math. Yes, $4.10. That makes more sense (cents.) Still, dirt cheap. If you need less than a TB, you pay less. And you get like 10GB free, too.

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                                            wrx7m @smartkid808
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                                            @smartkid808 said in Synology Backup:

                                            @scottalanmiller OK, Im getting .004*1024 = $4.10.. Am i missing something, or calculating wrong, or is it $.50/TB.

                                            I am with you on recovery.. Hopefully its never, but even then, my current NAS that died is 7 years old, which I got for free from Drobo on SW..

                                            @scottalanmiller, Have you used any of the Synology built in apps to back up to glacier?

                                            I used it for years. Never had a problem.

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