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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

      Catalans declare independence from Spain
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

      Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @MarigabyFrias is currently 10 miles from the break away zone!

        on which side?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @MarigabyFrias is currently 10 miles from the break away zone!

          on which side?

          North

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          • coliverC
            coliver @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            Catalans declare independence from Spain
            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

            Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

            I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              Catalans declare independence from Spain
              http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

              Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

              I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

              More like Puerto Rico. It is a fully self governing autonomous nation with its own language and culture.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @coliver
                last edited by Dashrender

                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                Catalans declare independence from Spain
                http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                See that's getting bogged down in the state/country thing I was talking about. But at a country level.. yeah, I get it.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Catalans declare independence from Spain
                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                  Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                  I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                  More like Puerto Rico. It is a fully self governing autonomous nation with its own language and culture.

                  That makes more sense.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    Catalans declare independence from Spain
                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                    Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                    I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                    See that's getting bogged down in the state/country thing I was talking about.

                    It's not bogged down at all. Catalonia is a separate nation that is under Spanish rule only by conquest. The people there are not Spanish, don't speak Spanish, and have their own international borders (with France primarily.)

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Quebec is also a good example.

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                      • NerdyDadN
                        NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Catalans declare independence from Spain
                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                        That's awesome. Now, how about Texas?

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          Catalans declare independence from Spain
                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                          Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                          I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                          See that's getting bogged down in the state/country thing I was talking about.

                          It's not bogged down at all. Catalonia is a separate nation that is under Spanish rule only by conquest. The people there are not Spanish, don't speak Spanish, and have their own international borders (with France primarily.)

                          They also have one of the biggest port cities in Spain.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
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                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Catalans declare independence from Spain
                            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                            Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                            I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                            See that's getting bogged down in the state/country thing I was talking about.

                            It's not bogged down at all. Catalonia is a separate nation that is under Spanish rule only by conquest. The people there are not Spanish, don't speak Spanish, and have their own international borders (with France primarily.)

                            They also have one of the biggest port cities in Spain.

                            Yup, number three. And they are the core of the overall Spanish economy (hence why Spain wants to keep them.)

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              Catalans declare independence from Spain
                              http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                              Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                              I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                              More like Puerto Rico. It is a fully self governing autonomous nation with its own language and culture.

                              How long ago did Spain annex it?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                Catalans declare independence from Spain
                                http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                                Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                                I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                                More like Puerto Rico. It is a fully self governing autonomous nation with its own language and culture.

                                How long ago did Spain annex it?

                                It's a complicated history, but the important date was the seizure of the region by Franco in 1939.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  Catalans declare independence from Spain
                                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                                  Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                                  I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                                  More like Puerto Rico. It is a fully self governing autonomous nation with its own language and culture.

                                  How long ago did Spain annex it?

                                  It's a complicated history, but the important date was the seizure of the region by Franco in 1939.

                                  IIRC they've had a "peaceful" rebellion since the 1980s. So this was just a matter of time.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    Catalans declare independence from Spain
                                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                                    Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                                    I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                                    More like Puerto Rico. It is a fully self governing autonomous nation with its own language and culture.

                                    How long ago did Spain annex it?

                                    It's a complicated history, but the important date was the seizure of the region by Franco in 1939.

                                    IIRC they've had a "peaceful" rebellion since the 1980s. So this was just a matter of time.

                                    They were happy from the fall of Franco until 2005 when Spain revoked their nationhood status.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      Catalans declare independence from Spain
                                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

                                      Would this be like Houston declaring itself independent? (and don't get bogged down in the state vs country thing).

                                      I think it would be more akin to Texas declaring independence from the US.

                                      More like Puerto Rico. It is a fully self governing autonomous nation with its own language and culture.

                                      How long ago did Spain annex it?

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marca_Hispanica#/media/File:Marca_Hispanica_Longnon_806.png

                                      The Spanish March was a French territory, not a Spanish one, historically, which is why their language is shared with France, not Spain. They were their own country, but primarily French influence.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        This map is also useful so that you can see how Barcelona (the capital of Catalonia) was part of France, not Spain. Spain is labeled Castile on the map. The rest of the Moorish kingdom. Catalonia is an old "peer" of Spain, both existed prior to the conquering of the Iberian peninsula and the creation of the modern state.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Andalus#/media/File:Al_Andalus_%26_Christian_Kingdoms.png

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Spain just claimed direct rule and seizure of Catalonia. This puts them firmly on the path of civil war as that declaration, given the independence an hour ago, would be a declaration of war.

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                                          • NerdyDadN
                                            NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            Spain just claimed direct rule and seizure of Catalonia. This puts them firmly on the path of civil war as that declaration, given the independence an hour ago, would be a declaration of war.

                                            Are you pulling this from the BBC or something?

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