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    • Mike DavisM
      Mike Davis
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      I'm trying to connect to a few sites in the US and am getting blocked.

      Screen Connect: So far I can get to the Screen Connect website, but when I try to connect to a host, I get the error: Error: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.

      my server in vultr: I can get console on the server by going to the vultr website. When I try to connect to my spiceworks install, I get the error: ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED I can ping it with ping times coming in at the 100ms mark.

      Zoiper: I'm getting the error: SIP 408 - request timeout
      Trying to register

      another spiceworks server not in vultr: same "ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED" error.

      Seems like my local router might be blocking some ports. I'm trying to think of a way to test that since ping works where ICMP is enabled, ping works, so I can't tracert to see which side the problem is on. I'm going to try to get access to the local router.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
        last edited by JaredBusch

        This has nothing to do with Germany adn everything to do with non-starndard ports not being allowed outbound by the router.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
          last edited by

          @mike-davis said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

          Seems like my local router might be blocking some ports. I'm trying to think of a way to test that since ping works where ICMP is enabled, ping works, so I can't tracert to see which side the problem is on. I'm going to try to get access to the local router.

          Ports are TCP based. ICMP doesn't use TCP. So ICMP will test IP where allowed, but will never tell you about TCP capabilities.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Local port blocking is very common. Especially email. But lots of places lock down to only allowing HTTP and HTTPS, or maybe FTP as well. Likely you need to VPN someplace or use a remote desktop.

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            • Mike DavisM
              Mike Davis
              last edited by

              Cabled in to see if I could get in to the local router (I was over wifi) and now some sites work, but Zoiper still doesn't. I knew I should have packed an EdgeRouter...

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
                last edited by

                @mike-davis said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                Cabled in to see if I could get in to the local router (I was over wifi) and now some sites work, but Zoiper still doesn't. I knew I should have packed an EdgeRouter...

                If you can bypass the router, just run to a store and grab a thirty Euro little router.

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                • Mike DavisM
                  Mike Davis
                  last edited by

                  It's a DSL router, so even if I had an ER, it wouldn't help. I was able to log in to the thing and am now increasing my German vocabulary as I look for port filtering.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
                    last edited by

                    @mike-davis said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                    It's a DSL router, so even if I had an ER, it wouldn't help. I was able to log in to the thing and am now increasing my German vocabulary as I look for port filtering.

                    If it is even doing it on the device, could be somewhere else.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                      @mike-davis said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                      It's a DSL router, so even if I had an ER, it wouldn't help. I was able to log in to the thing and am now increasing my German vocabulary as I look for port filtering.

                      If it is even doing it on the device, could be somewhere else.

                      That has nothing to do with what he said.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                        @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                        @mike-davis said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                        It's a DSL router, so even if I had an ER, it wouldn't help. I was able to log in to the thing and am now increasing my German vocabulary as I look for port filtering.

                        If it is even doing it on the device, could be somewhere else.

                        That has nothing to do with what he said.

                        It does, my point was that replacing the device he can see mights till not fix things, since the blocking might be at the other end of the WAN link.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                          @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                          @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                          @mike-davis said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                          It's a DSL router, so even if I had an ER, it wouldn't help. I was able to log in to the thing and am now increasing my German vocabulary as I look for port filtering.

                          If it is even doing it on the device, could be somewhere else.

                          That has nothing to do with what he said.

                          It does, my point was that replacing the device he can see mights till not fix things, since the blocking might be at the other end of the WAN link.

                          No. Your words.

                          @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                          If it is even doing it on the device,

                          No one said or implied that it was doing anything on the device. you are raising a red herring.

                          He clearly said he now had access to the device and was looking for the settings.

                          Additionally, he stated that it is a DSL router. This means DSL modem + Router. You cannot exchange that with an ERL if he even wanted to, as the ERL is a router only and not a DSL modem.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                            It does,

                            It does not. Expand your quote of his post and read it again.

                            @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                            my point was that replacing the device he can see mights till not fix things, since the blocking might be at the other end of the WAN link.

                            Your point is correct, everyone knows that by replacing the router it could potentially make the problem go away or at verify that the router is not the problem. I am not arguing that. But I am arguing how you think you got to that point.

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                            • Mike DavisM
                              Mike Davis
                              last edited by

                              It is correct that I can't replace the device since it's a DSL modem as well as router. Also looking at this page, it's not clear to me if Fritz box is intentionally blocking VoIP ports, or if it's a side effect of them offering the service.
                              https://en.avm.de/service/fritzbox/fritzbox-7390/knowledge-base/publication/show/28_Cannot-make-outgoing-calls-over-Internet/

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                So the issue is that your computer is.... on the Fritz?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                  It does,

                                  It does not. Expand your quote of his post and read it again.

                                  @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                  my point was that replacing the device he can see mights till not fix things, since the blocking might be at the other end of the WAN link.

                                  Your point is correct, everyone knows that by replacing the router it could potentially make the problem go away or at verify that the router is not the problem. I am not arguing that. But I am arguing how you think you got to that point.

                                  0_1499971993385_Screenshot from 2017-07-13 13-53-06.png

                                  I was responding to what I thought. He mentioned that he couldn't replace that device. And I pointed out that because if there is that filtering going on it's possible to be at the other end of the WAN rather than his end. More likely his, but not certain. A lot of smaller carriers in Europe have their own last mile gear and can filter along the path. For example, in Italy, even with a DSL connection, the DSL originated in my house AND terminated there. It connected to a wireless link next door.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                    @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                    It does,

                                    It does not. Expand your quote of his post and read it again.

                                    @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                    my point was that replacing the device he can see mights till not fix things, since the blocking might be at the other end of the WAN link.

                                    Your point is correct, everyone knows that by replacing the router it could potentially make the problem go away or at verify that the router is not the problem. I am not arguing that. But I am arguing how you think you got to that point.

                                    0_1499971993385_Screenshot from 2017-07-13 13-53-06.png

                                    I was responding to what I thought. He mentioned that he couldn't replace that device. And I pointed out that because if there is that filtering going on it's possible to be at the other end of the WAN rather than his end. More likely his, but not certain. A lot of smaller carriers in Europe have their own last mile gear and can filter along the path. For example, in Italy, even with a DSL connection, the DSL originated in my house AND terminated there. It connected to a wireless link next door.

                                    But nothing in any of that text implies that "it is even doing it on the device"

                                    You cannot have it both ways. Your tear the fuck out of people for using the wrong words and responding to someone's words in a way other than what has been wrote.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                      @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                      It does,

                                      It does not. Expand your quote of his post and read it again.

                                      @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                      my point was that replacing the device he can see mights till not fix things, since the blocking might be at the other end of the WAN link.

                                      Your point is correct, everyone knows that by replacing the router it could potentially make the problem go away or at verify that the router is not the problem. I am not arguing that. But I am arguing how you think you got to that point.

                                      0_1499971993385_Screenshot from 2017-07-13 13-53-06.png

                                      I was responding to what I thought. He mentioned that he couldn't replace that device. And I pointed out that because if there is that filtering going on it's possible to be at the other end of the WAN rather than his end. More likely his, but not certain. A lot of smaller carriers in Europe have their own last mile gear and can filter along the path. For example, in Italy, even with a DSL connection, the DSL originated in my house AND terminated there. It connected to a wireless link next door.

                                      But nothing in any of that text implies that "it is even doing it on the device"

                                      You cannot have it both ways. Your tear the fuck out of people for using the wrong words and responding to someone's words in a way other than what has been wrote.

                                      He was talking about replacing the existing device for the purpose of hopefully removing the filtering with the presumption or hope that that was teh location where it was happening.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                        @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                        @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                        It does,

                                        It does not. Expand your quote of his post and read it again.

                                        @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                        my point was that replacing the device he can see mights till not fix things, since the blocking might be at the other end of the WAN link.

                                        Your point is correct, everyone knows that by replacing the router it could potentially make the problem go away or at verify that the router is not the problem. I am not arguing that. But I am arguing how you think you got to that point.

                                        0_1499971993385_Screenshot from 2017-07-13 13-53-06.png

                                        I was responding to what I thought. He mentioned that he couldn't replace that device. And I pointed out that because if there is that filtering going on it's possible to be at the other end of the WAN rather than his end. More likely his, but not certain. A lot of smaller carriers in Europe have their own last mile gear and can filter along the path. For example, in Italy, even with a DSL connection, the DSL originated in my house AND terminated there. It connected to a wireless link next door.

                                        But nothing in any of that text implies that "it is even doing it on the device"

                                        You cannot have it both ways. Your tear the fuck out of people for using the wrong words and responding to someone's words in a way other than what has been wrote.

                                        He was talking about replacing the existing device for the purpose of hopefully removing the filtering with the presumption or hope that that was teh location where it was happening.

                                        No you were.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                          @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                          @jaredbusch said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                          It does,

                                          It does not. Expand your quote of his post and read it again.

                                          @scottalanmiller said in trying to connect to US sites from Germany getting blocked:

                                          my point was that replacing the device he can see mights till not fix things, since the blocking might be at the other end of the WAN link.

                                          Your point is correct, everyone knows that by replacing the router it could potentially make the problem go away or at verify that the router is not the problem. I am not arguing that. But I am arguing how you think you got to that point.

                                          0_1499971993385_Screenshot from 2017-07-13 13-53-06.png

                                          I was responding to what I thought. He mentioned that he couldn't replace that device. And I pointed out that because if there is that filtering going on it's possible to be at the other end of the WAN rather than his end. More likely his, but not certain. A lot of smaller carriers in Europe have their own last mile gear and can filter along the path. For example, in Italy, even with a DSL connection, the DSL originated in my house AND terminated there. It connected to a wireless link next door.

                                          But nothing in any of that text implies that "it is even doing it on the device"

                                          You cannot have it both ways. Your tear the fuck out of people for using the wrong words and responding to someone's words in a way other than what has been wrote.

                                          He was talking about replacing the existing device for the purpose of hopefully removing the filtering with the presumption or hope that that was teh location where it was happening.

                                          No you were.

                                          Nope, read from the top. First mention of port blocking was in the OP. First mention of replacing the gear was by the OP in this one:

                                          0_1499973573480_Screenshot from 2017-07-13 14-19-06.png

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