Met with fiber isp guy, he gave us a proposal
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@momurda said in Met with fiber isp guy, he gave us a proposal:
We still need them. Some of our older customers (dod, places in other countries) still need us to access devices over telephone lines believe it or not.
But they are not telephone lines, it's just VoIP. Same as any VoIP except locked to the line.
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Our current phone lines are old POTS lines, that is why it is almost 300/month for 3 of them. The new ones would be part of the fiber service.
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@momurda said in Met with fiber isp guy, he gave us a proposal:
Our current phone lines are old POTS lines, that is why it is almost 300/month for 3 of them. The new ones would be part of the fiber service.
Sure. The ponit of @coliver question was why were you getting new VoIP lines that are tied to the ISP, rather than ones that are not bound to your connection. Normally these are a fraction of the cost and far more reliable and protect you from ISP extortion.
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@scottalanmiller The phone lines in this proposal are 25/month each.
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@momurda said in Met with fiber isp guy, he gave us a proposal:
@scottalanmiller The phone lines in this proposal are 25/month each.
Right, it's not about the price, although that's on the high side, it's about the lock in and risk. To give an example, and before Jared points out that we are grandfathered... we are grandfathered, we get four lines for $11 total, not each. So you'll pay $75 and get about what, $8 worth of lines? And our $11, while grandfathered, is hardly the best deal out there, just an example.
But even dollar for dollar, ISP lines are risky. It makes it much harder to be flexible and leave the ISP if they treat you badly or raise prices later. Bundling is risky.
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@scottalanmiller said in Met with fiber isp guy, he gave us a proposal:
@momurda said in Met with fiber isp guy, he gave us a proposal:
@scottalanmiller The phone lines in this proposal are 25/month each.
Right, it's not about the price, although that's on the high side, it's about the lock in and risk. To give an example, and before Jared points out that we are grandfathered... we are grandfathered, we get four lines for $11 total, not each. So you'll pay $75 and get about what, $8 worth of lines? And our $11, while grandfathered, is hardly the best deal out there, just an example.
But even dollar for dollar, ISP lines are risky. It makes it much harder to be flexible and leave the ISP if they treat you badly or raise prices later. Bundling is risky.
That cost does not cover your outbound calling, only inbound. As he stated he is calling out with modems, there will always be cost on the calls.
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For the cheapest lines, yes, that's why I pointed out that $27 was still high, because you can get unlimited for less.
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I havent yet asked but i suspect the price would probably go up if phone lines werent included in the bundle. They would come with unlimited long distance so it is a flat fee of 25/month per line, which is nice.
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@momurda said in Met with fiber isp guy, he gave us a proposal:
I havent yet asked but i suspect the price would probably go up if phone lines werent included in the bundle.
Which in some ways means that they are NOT $25/line.
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be sure to verify their fiber delivered POTS lines support faxes or modems. GET IT IN WRITING IF YOU NEED IT!! Many times, as mentioned these are VoIP lines that are just connected to an ATA and will not support modems or faxes. If it something like Verion Fios, their "POTS" lines do support fax (they simply do a digital to analog conversion at the ONT, not voip from what I can tell) and we have not had any troubles with modems; not true though with our Time Warner fiber circuit.
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@jt1001001 said in Met with fiber isp guy, he gave us a proposal:
Many times, as mentioned these are VoIP lines that are just connected to an ATA and will not support modems or faxes.
The first part is basically always. Fiber can't deliver POTS, so to get something that looks like POTS across it, VoIP is the only reasonable way. It HAS to be digital one way or another, so only VoIP is sensible.
