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    • bigbearB
      bigbear @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

      @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

      I gotta say also, the freepbx gui lead me to believe all the resources provided were maxed on my other hosted freepbx instances. I can't believe you can get by with so little.

      Standard misreading of Linux RAM data. Use the free command on the CLI and you'll normally see that the RAM is essentially unused. A lightly used FreePBX system could be around 180MB while making calls.

      Just crazy what's possible. I'll be the last guy laughing around this office!

      We have incredible low voice network overhead for local origination because we have our own interconnects and later 5 switches in Cinci Bell closets. Part of that was because of the dslams we had around town prior to going wifi. We average .0025 on voice costs. The platform overhead has always destroyed our profits. Seems almost too good to be true.

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      • bigbearB
        bigbear
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        Is it expected that you convert a chan_sip extension in the GUI by clicking to change to pjsip driver? Or would I have to re-provision the phones?

        What would be really helpful in the guide is to see how you manually place the config files to provisions phones and if there are any relative firewall changes that need to be made...

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          You can tune the systems down pretty low. And if you are willing to shut off services when not doing configuration, you can get down insanely low.

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          • bigbearB
            bigbear @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller without turning off anything what's he lowest vultr you'd use?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @bigbear
              last edited by

              @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

              @scottalanmiller without turning off anything what's he lowest vultr you'd use?

              Not sure, we always tune our systems 🙂

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              • bigbearB
                bigbear @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                @scottalanmiller without turning off anything what's he lowest vultr you'd use?

                Not sure, we always tune our systems 🙂

                By tuning you mean? Removing unwanted modules? Changing pagefile and CPU mgmt in Linux?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                  @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                  @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                  @scottalanmiller without turning off anything what's he lowest vultr you'd use?

                  Not sure, we always tune our systems 🙂

                  By tuning you mean? Removing unwanted modules? Changing pagefile and CPU mgmt in Linux?

                  Not CPU, but we remove unused services, reduce the responsiveness of Apache, etc.

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                  • bigbearB
                    bigbear @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                    @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                    @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                    @scottalanmiller without turning off anything what's he lowest vultr you'd use?

                    Not sure, we always tune our systems 🙂

                    By tuning you mean? Removing unwanted modules? Changing pagefile and CPU mgmt in Linux?

                    Not CPU, but we remove unused services, reduce the responsiveness of Apache, etc.

                    Stuff not easily scripted/automated?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @bigbear
                      last edited by

                      @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                      @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                      @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                      @scottalanmiller without turning off anything what's he lowest vultr you'd use?

                      Not sure, we always tune our systems 🙂

                      By tuning you mean? Removing unwanted modules? Changing pagefile and CPU mgmt in Linux?

                      Not CPU, but we remove unused services, reduce the responsiveness of Apache, etc.

                      Stuff not easily scripted/automated?

                      We are starting to do that stuff to standardize it. Pretty much everything is automatable on Linux 🙂

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                      • bigbearB
                        bigbear @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                        @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                        @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                        @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                        @scottalanmiller without turning off anything what's he lowest vultr you'd use?

                        Not sure, we always tune our systems 🙂

                        By tuning you mean? Removing unwanted modules? Changing pagefile and CPU mgmt in Linux?

                        Not CPU, but we remove unused services, reduce the responsiveness of Apache, etc.

                        Stuff not easily scripted/automated?

                        We are starting to do that stuff to standardize it. Pretty much everything is automatable on Linux 🙂

                        Where I'm heading with this is to write a php interface for provisioning using the acme packet and vultr api's, not sure yet about freepbx api's maybe salt my way to ops automation. Totally replace our in house system.

                        It's not my primary job around here, I'm a radiohead...

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @bigbear
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                          Is it expected that you convert a chan_sip extension in the GUI by clicking to change to pjsip driver? Or would I have to re-provision the phones?

                          You can easily switch this without reprovisioning the phones. I have done it more than once.

                          What would be really helpful in the guide is to see how you manually place the config files to provisions phones and if there are any relative firewall changes that need to be made...

                          You mean my guide? That is coming, but basically you put them in /tftpboot like any other default tftp setup.

                          Assuming you have not messed up the firewall more, they work once you enable the right network settings.I use the 'Internal' or 'Other' setting for that.

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                          • bigbearB
                            bigbear @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch I'm gonna retry all this from scratch tonight. Maybe use a $10 vm. Not doing any "tuning" though.

                            I was thinking with pjsip on 5060 should in be trunking down to 5160 and chan_sip from my soft switch?

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              I use HTTPS provisioning in the Yealink phones, but you could use TFTP also.

                              HTTPS provisioning is on port 1443 by default.
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                              So in your phone you would setup https://pbx.domain.com:1433 as the config URL.

                              auto_provision.server.url = https://pbx.domain.com:1443
                              firmware.url = https://pbx.domain.com:1443/T42-29.81.0.20.rom
                              

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @bigbear
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                                @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                @JaredBusch I'm gonna retry all this from scratch tonight. Maybe use a $10 vm. Not doing any "tuning" though.

                                I was thinking with pjsip on 5060 should in be trunking down to 5160 and chan_sip from my soft switch?

                                outbound trunks still use chan_sip out to the other end's port 5060 like you are familiar.

                                I feel you are overcomplicating this entire thing.

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                  @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                  @JaredBusch I'm gonna retry all this from scratch tonight. Maybe use a $10 vm. Not doing any "tuning" though.

                                  I was thinking with pjsip on 5060 should in be trunking down to 5160 and chan_sip from my soft switch?

                                  outbound trunks still use chan_sip out to the other end's port 5060 like you are familiar.

                                  I feel you are overcomplicating this entire thing.

                                  I mean, if your tftp is "internal" how do the remote phones access it? Lol. Just doesn't follow any firewall lingo I've ever used...

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @bigbear
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                                    @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                    @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                    @JaredBusch I'm gonna retry all this from scratch tonight. Maybe use a $10 vm. Not doing any "tuning" though.

                                    I was thinking with pjsip on 5060 should in be trunking down to 5160 and chan_sip from my soft switch?

                                    outbound trunks still use chan_sip out to the other end's port 5060 like you are familiar.

                                    I feel you are overcomplicating this entire thing.

                                    I mean, if your tftp is "internal" how do the remote phones access it? Lol. Just doesn't follow any firewall lingo I've ever used...

                                    You really have no idea what you are doing here. Maybe you should leave this to your PBX team, have you thought about that?

                                    If you are going to continue, read the definitions, but realize, they are simply labels to be friendly.
                                    0_1489113139439_upload-98fe5749-a1fd-43d2-8b49-e23af4d29a42

                                    So if you make a network or IP internal like I did above, then that network can access anything marked internal on the service map pages.

                                    By default, many things are set to internal already on those pages.
                                    By default, almost nothing is set to other, it is good to use for home office workers with a dyndns entry for their IP.

                                    You get the idea now?

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                                    • bigbearB
                                      bigbear @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch what internal network is there when it's hosted???

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @bigbear
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                                        @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                        @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                        @JaredBusch I'm gonna retry all this from scratch tonight. Maybe use a $10 vm. Not doing any "tuning" though.

                                        I was thinking with pjsip on 5060 should in be trunking down to 5160 and chan_sip from my soft switch?

                                        outbound trunks still use chan_sip out to the other end's port 5060 like you are familiar.

                                        I feel you are overcomplicating this entire thing.

                                        I mean, if your tftp is "internal" how do the remote phones access it? Lol. Just doesn't follow any firewall lingo I've ever used...

                                        You set your DHCP server to tell devices to look to your PBX for TFPT, or you preset all phones with the provisioning URL before sending them out.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @bigbear
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                                          @bigbear said in Correct Settings For Hosted FreePBX 13:

                                          @JaredBusch what internal network is there when it's hosted???

                                          You obviously failed to read what I just just wrote.

                                          I clearly stated that you need to understand that they are just labels to be friendly.

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                                          • bigbearB
                                            bigbear @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch your tftp is marked internal zone. Unless you have an onprem pbx it's not accessible from your local network.

                                            You do know I'm only talking about hosted right?

                                            I understand what they are doing here.

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