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    Finding the Best Open Source Email Solutions

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      mcostan @mcostan
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      @mcostan

      Just realised in my previous posting:

      The correct link is below:

      https://download.kopano.io/community/

      you have core, which is basically the actual sytem, then webapp which is the user interface and then you can install the extra plugins like files and webmeetings if you want to.

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        mcostan @mcostan
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        @mcostan

        In Summary: kopano (renamed zarafa) you get ALL the functionality in the community builds. That includes activesync and everything else (you just install z-push which is one line install and works on its own).

        In summary as far as I am concerned: I need cloud integration, activesync (mobile) integration, outlook integration, and web conferencing.

        Zimbra I did look at it, but the community edition was missing several bits which I needed and for my personal uses, I wouldn't want to buy the commercial edition.

        Also note that there is now a kopano forum:

        https://forum.kopano.io/

        Where in case you are stuck you should get replies fairly quickly.

        My own experience is that when I did bump into issues the kopano develpers were able to help me and point me into the right direction even via email and even if I wasn't a paid customers.

        So I have no complaints whatsoever.

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          mcostan @mcostan
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          @mcostan

          the community site is www.kopano.io (www.kopano.com is the commercial one).

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            thwr @mcostan
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            @mcostan said in Finding the Best Open Source Email Solutions:

            @mcostan

            the community site is www.kopano.io (www.kopano.com is the commercial one).

            Never heard about it. You could write a dedicated post about Kopano. Maybe with a few screenshots?

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              mcostan @thwr
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              @thwr

              Hi, Kopano is simply the new name for Zarafa, which has been around for a long time.

              It's zarafa++ and essentially only Kopano will be developed going forward.

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                vhinzsanchez @thwr
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                @thwr said in Finding the Best Open Source Email Solutions:

                @mcostan said in Finding the Best Open Source Email Solutions:

                @mcostan

                the community site is www.kopano.io (www.kopano.com is the commercial one).

                Never heard about it. You could write a dedicated post about Kopano. Maybe with a few screenshots?

                Yup, never heard of it until this thread. It's the Zarafa which I know.

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  Anyone know a good Kopano install guide?

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                    mcostan @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller

                    Hi, It's all online:

                    This is the core components:

                    https://documentation.kopano.io/kopanocore_administrator_manual/

                    And then you can look at the other admin manuals, starting of course with webapp which you would need to install:

                    https://documentation.kopano.io/

                    Regardless of the manuals, installation is pretty easy... you just have to go to:

                    https://download.kopano.io/community/

                    Download the packages: core, webapp (and if you want to, the plugins like mdm, smime, files and webmeetings)

                    and depending on which architecture you have use rpm, dpkg etc.

                    Clearly download the correct packages you need for your operating system.

                    you then configure some users, and when you restart apache it should just come up with webapp

                    You will clearly need to have a working mail delivery solution, being sendmail (I am old fashion, I use this one) or postfix or whatever to send or receive e-mails from the outside world.

                    I hope this helps. If you get stuck let me know.

                    P.S. I am not affiliated in any shape or form directly nor indirectly with zarafa/kopano. I just bumped into it a few years back and I use the community edition and I find it useful for me.

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                      mcostan @mcostan
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                      @mcostan

                      In general you should be able to just install the packages with rpm or dpkg and run it assuming you have mysql running and apache.

                      Unless you want very specific configurations, the only thing you need to do is to make sure your MTA (sendmail, postfix etc.) works and create at least one kopano user with

                      kopano-admin -c mynewuserlogin -f "Name Surname" -p mypasswd -e [email protected]

                      from then onwards

                      if you type:

                      myURL/webapp

                      you should be able to login

                      If you want z-push (i.e. activesync) again that's a very easy install from automatic packages and it will work by itself

                      https://wiki.z-hub.io/display/ZP/Installation

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                        mcostan @vhinzsanchez
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                        @vhinzsanchez

                        Best to look at their primary website for screenshots and demo.

                        www.kopano.com

                        you will see the online demo as well as a video showing you all the feature like files, web meetings etc.

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                          scottalanmiller @mcostan
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                          @mcostan I looked at their docs and they seem to just drop you with no installation info. I've been all through the official stuff and no installation guide there. There are things called that but they don't show a working install and they don't even match the real world packages. Their "make sure to install this first" package doesn't even exist.

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                            mcostan @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller

                            Hi,

                            My view would be to use the admin manuals for actual configuration if you have to.

                            For installation, really all you need is to pick up this:

                            https://download.kopano.io/community/core:/
                            https://download.kopano.io/community/webapp:/

                            For your architecture and just unpack them and install the packages.

                            Once you get passed this I am pretty sure the admin manuals will be correct.

                            If you have any issues happy to assist. The only thing you will need to watch out for is the sendmail / postfix or whichever MTA you are planning to use.

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                              mcostan
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                              In summary pick the packages at the core and webapp locations above and then carry on with the admin manual as below.

                              Note that the community edition is obviously evolving that is why you should pick the latest tarball, extract it, and from there you get the packges rpm or deb to install.

                              3.2.1.1. RPM based distributions

                              Use the following command to install the KC packages on RPM based distributions:

                              rpm -Uvh <package files you want to install>

                              Replace <package file> with the packages found in the tarball. Start with libvmime, libical and kopano-server-packages (in this order) then install the other packages. The package manager might find unresolved dependencies, try to install packages for these dependencies as normal would be done for that distribution (yum -i on Red Hat, zypper -i on SLES).

                              Note

                              Using distribution specific packaging tools it may be easier to resolve package dependencies for rpm based distributions. For SLES you should use “zypper in <package>” and for RHEL based system “yum localinstall <package>”.
                              3.2.1.2. DEB based distributions

                              On DEB based distributions (most commonly Debian and Ubuntu) use:

                              dpkg -i <package files you want to install>

                              To install the correct dependencies for KC apt-get or an equivalent tool can be used.

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                                scottalanmiller @mcostan
                                last edited by scottalanmiller

                                @mcostan said in Finding the Best Open Source Email Solutions:

                                Replace <package file> with the packages found in the tarball. Start with libvmime, libical and kopano-server-packages (in this order) then install the other packages.

                                libical doesn't exist, that was the first issue. It's not in the tarball or in the OS.

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                                  mcostan @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller

                                  As I said ignore the manual for the packages. Take the packages out of the community edition and just install them.

                                  Remember that the community edition is evolving weekly or so, so it is obvious packages will change.

                                  That however doesn't matter.

                                  Personally every two weeks or so, I go to the community site, download the tarball, uncompress the packages, and simply install them.

                                  it has been working for months and if a package changes, I do not even notice it, I just install the latest one.

                                  The primary configuration files, that is server.cfg, dagent.cfg etc. do not change as far as I have seen, perhaps never. Or if they do, they are optional settings which I have never changed.

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                                    scottalanmiller @mcostan
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                                    @mcostan said in Finding the Best Open Source Email Solutions:

                                    @scottalanmiller

                                    As I said ignore the manual for the packages. Take the packages out of the community edition and just install them.

                                    I had to run a script like 50 times to go through all of the packages to get them to install... so many failed dependencies. By the end, several would never install.

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                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      What OS are you using? I tried on CentOS 7 and the tarball simply wans't complete or installable.

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                                        mcostan @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller

                                        I am running on Debian, I haven't tested Ubuntu but I suppose it must be pretty much the same.

                                        I never had issues installing the packages on Debian.

                                        If you do need to stick with Centos 7 and you still have issues I would recommend you to post your issues to the Kopano forums and I am sure someone will reply.

                                        That said, I am very happy running with Debian and I never had any issues.

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                                          mcostan @mcostan
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                                          @mcostan

                                          To test I would just install a standard Debian / or Ubuntu distribution on a Virtual Machine (I use VirtualBox) and install them there.

                                          I normally just run dpkg -i * (for all the kopano packages) and that's about it.

                                          afterwards I run

                                          apt-get -f install

                                          and that takes care of all the dependencies. I haven't seen a failed one whatsoever.

                                          Z-push instead (activesync link) comes straigth from the repositories once you link the repository so that's even easier.

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                                            mcostan
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                                            If you have a domain name you want to test with, I can add it to our system and you can test Kopano live on our installation.

                                            After that you can replicate it on yours if you like.

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