Microsoft Communicator 2007 R2
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BBigford said:
@scottalanmiller For internal, I know the question gets posed "it's internal, how do you figure it'll get compromised?" My thought was a compromised internal machine can feed that data to an external source (as unlikely as that might be, they are questions that might be raised).
Internal is always the most dangerous. SMBs just don't have the resources to secure and monitor things like big enterprise cloud providers can.
Yeah and see that's what I'm afraid of. Purchasing a closed source solution, you expect certain levels of security so I can redirect my efforts somewhere else, instead of hardening our IM services. Going with something like OpenFire, I don't expect the security to be on the same level because the development is nowhere near as robust because it is free, so expectations are much lower for that kind of thing.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BBigford said:
I'm guessing you use Rocket Chat, and that your post about setting up Rocket Chat wasn't just a trial, but to put it to use...
No, we DO have it running, but we don't use it. We use Skype (real Skype, the one that works, not that SfB garbage, we tried that and it is pretty much useless) because our system is mostly for talking to customers, not internally. So since we are stuck with Skype to talk to customers it makes both SfB and Rocket pretty much useless to us.
What did you find so terrible about SfB? I've read complaints about video/audio quality, connectivity, etc. Are there any specifics you can mention? It is all helpful when I'm writing up this stuff in a proposal of what to do for now and the coming years.
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@BBigford said:
Hah, now that is funny. I had read from so many Lync admins that Lync was great, until SfB came into play.
No, SfB changed nothing. Lync was always garbage. SfB is just a rebranding of Lync, nothing really changed. And Lync was just a rebranding of Communicator. None of it was ever any good.
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@BBigford said:
Yeah and see that's what I'm afraid of. Purchasing a closed source solution, you expect certain levels of security ....
Oh no, very much the opposite. Closed source means "bad security". Security and open go hand in hand. How do you get security when the source code is secret? Obscurity is the enemy of security.
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@BBigford said:
Going with something like OpenFire, I don't expect the security to be on the same level because the development is nowhere near as robust because it is free, so expectations are much lower for that kind of thing.
Development is much more robust AND the code can be audited AND isn't kept secret. From a product standpoint, Skype and SfB would be the least secure options. It's the hosting of it that is more secure.
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@BBigford said:
What did you find so terrible about SfB?
Unreliable, never worked properly, lacked really fundamental features like persistent groups.
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@scottalanmiller Awesome. As always, thanks for the insight Scott. I'm headed home for the day. Have a good one.
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@BBigford said:
@scottalanmiller Awesome. As always, thanks for the insight Scott. I'm headed home for the day. Have a good one.
You too!
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Why not just setup a Rocket Chat VM and test it out between the IT department. It doesn't take that long to get setup.
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