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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @technobabble
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      @technobabble said:

      I lost count of the PCs that small business have running some type of free av.

      Yeah. Nearly all, I'd say.

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      • alexntgA
        alexntg @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @technobabble said:

        I lost count of the PCs that small business have running some type of free av.

        Yeah. Nearly all, I'd say.

        And as a responsible MSP, we work to get them into licensing compliance.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          MSE allows small businesses to run up to 10 licenses. Unless that's changed.

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          • alexntgA
            alexntg @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            MSE allows small businesses to run up to 10 licenses. Unless that's changed.

            That's correct. Anything larger would be out of compliance.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              MSE allows small businesses to run up to 10 licenses. Unless that's changed.

              Correct. We often recommend that for the under ten crowd. Just makes financial sense.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                And now since Windows 8 includes it built in, a company could effectively get away without buying any AV for the end points. I personally liked MSE, but I know others who don't. Have always of you really need more than what comes with Win8 assuming you're running a decent firewall.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  We haven't seen any issues with it.

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                  • alexntgA
                    alexntg @Dashrender
                    last edited by alexntg

                    @Dashrender said:

                    And now since Windows 8 includes it built in, a company could effectively get away without buying any AV for the end points. I personally liked MSE, but I know others who don't. Have always of you really need more than what comes with Win8 assuming you're running a decent firewall.

                    It's about taking the layered approach. Firewalls are old news; most of the modern attacks in the wild work from the inside out now, but it's still a good thing to have. If you have a UTM or other type of inline filtering setup, it's a good layer. Still, a good endpoint protection product is the last line of defense, and shouldn't be passed by.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      I don't disagree Alex. But short of something like Webroots approach, the rest are pointless when you have MSE baked in.

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                      • alexntgA
                        alexntg @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        I don't disagree Alex. But short of something like Webroots approach, the rest are pointless when you have MSE baked in.

                        Exactly! There is a reason why I prefer Webroot. It functions well as an immune system for anything which manages to make it past the front door and onto the endpoint. Keep in mind that more and more users are moving to laptops, so there's a decent chance folks will be attached to non-company networks along the way, and need a solid onboard level of protection.

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                        • NicN
                          Nic
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                          Yeah, we're trying to take a more holistic approach to security. Whether virus, malware or phishing, we're trying to be the one-stop place for security reputation for processes, IP address and URLs.

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