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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
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      ok thanks, i will take a look over CakePHP,
      so no need to use OOP right ??

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        ok thanks, i will take a look over CakePHP,
        so no need to use OOP right ??

        Use what is common to the framework you choose 🙂

        I'm not recommending CakePHP, I'm not a PHP guy so don't know what is the good options versus the names that I know. CakePHP is relatively popular in the space and a place to look. But don't choose it because I mentioned it, just start investigating there. PHP has a lot of frameworks that are good. Ruby and Python have one main framework that dominates their space and becomes the obvious thing to learn (Rails and Django) but even there it is not a foregone conclusion. PHP lacks this and has lots of smaller potential players.

        This is an advantage to Ruby, most people simply choose Ruby on Rails and convention dictates everything that they do.

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
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          i think this framework will make things complex for me, right now i'm using ajax and json to retrieve data from my DB without refreshing the page, i think i'm ok with my current method, cuz this framwork will take time from me to learn

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre
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            I've never really been able to get my head wrapped around the MVC model of programming -- at least not as most of the Frameworks operate.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              ok thanks, i will take a look over CakePHP,
              so no need to use OOP right ??

              Use what is common to the framework you choose 🙂

              I'm not recommending CakePHP, I'm not a PHP guy so don't know what is the good options versus the names that I know. CakePHP is relatively popular in the space and a place to look. But don't choose it because I mentioned it, just start investigating there. PHP has a lot of frameworks that are good. Ruby and Python have one main framework that dominates their space and becomes the obvious thing to learn (Rails and Django) but even there it is not a foregone conclusion. PHP lacks this and has lots of smaller potential players.

              This is an advantage to Ruby, most people simply choose Ruby on Rails and convention dictates everything that they do.

              For PHP, there are several... CakePHP and Symfony are two that I am aware of.

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
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                ah, here you are @dafyre, where are you man, i'm looking for you
                tell me how do you work with PHP, are you adopting OOP?? or maybe a framework ??
                please i need your advice, i'm working on a PHP project right now,

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  ah, here you are @dafyre, where are you man, i'm looking for you
                  tell me how do you work with PHP, are you adopting OOP?? or maybe a framework ??
                  please i need your advice, i'm working on a PHP project right now,

                  I tend to write my code.. I'll have a php file for functions that I use a lot, and a library that I can use for handling various things like databases, etc.

                  Then I write the logic (PHP) and HTML in one file. So if I have a form that writes to a database, the form will be an HTML file, and will be styled with CSS, jQuery for Javascript stuff... Then the bits that actually write to the database will be just a PHP page that only writes to the database.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    ah, here you are @dafyre, where are you man, i'm looking for you
                    tell me how do you work with PHP, are you adopting OOP?? or maybe a framework ??
                    please i need your advice, i'm working on a PHP project right now,

                    What are you building?

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
                      last edited by

                      An HR payroll application

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        What library are you using??

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          An HR payroll application

                          Oh, fun! Last time I built one of those was in Access 97, lol. (Whatever the one before Office 2003 was).

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
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                            For database connection , did you connect each time to DB or you using a persistance framework ??

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre
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                              I haven't used a MySQL library like that in a while, so I'm going to assume that it was a connection each time. If I'm not mistaken, PHP will keep MySQL sessions open briefly after your query is done.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                For database connection , did you connect each time to DB or you using a persistance framework ??

                                Are you going to cache database information on the client?

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  For database connection , did you connect each time to DB or you using a persistance framework ??

                                  I am, however, using ReadBeanPHP (http://www.redbeanphp.com/) as my Database library these days... It seems to work well, and from what I can gather it does not use Persistent connections either.

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                                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    For database connection , did you connect each time to DB or you using a persistance framework ??

                                    Are you going to cache database information on the client?

                                    Doesn't this lead to conflicts?

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                                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      For database connection , did you connect each time to DB or you using a persistance framework ??

                                      Are you going to cache database information on the client?

                                      Doesn't this lead to conflicts?

                                      Not if done correctly.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        For database connection , did you connect each time to DB or you using a persistance framework ??

                                        Are you going to cache database information on the client?

                                        Doesn't this lead to conflicts?

                                        We are using it right now to have this conversation.

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                                        • IT-ADMINI
                                          IT-ADMIN
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                                          i'm very sorry guys, i was in a meeting regarding this project,

                                          actually i was informed that this project will not be only a payroll application but it should be kind of a small ERP that include all modules that our enterprise is working on, it is the best news i heard today, because we will migrate from VB.net to a whole PHP application, because we faced a limitation with .net because the boss want to access the portal from his mobile, so the decision was made to start a web application from scratch, i think it was the best decision ever made in my company,

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN
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                                            now i have to prepare myself and start the project using the right tools from the begining and be able to expand the project in the future,
                                            we will be 2 in this project, the other guy is considered the boss of the project, but i can still propose the right tools and framework to work with

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