Wireless Access Points for Summer Camp
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@scottalanmiller said:
Mesh wifi is not repeaters. And it isn't silly consumer gear. It is enterprise point to point networking. It's not repeating, it's a real bridge.
Oh then I agree. I said this above:
I'm assuming they are going to need some bridges as well
I thought he meant repeaters like, receive and send wireless from the same antenna.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Mesh wifi is not repeaters. And it isn't silly consumer gear. It is enterprise point to point networking. It's not repeating, it's a real bridge.
What Ubiquiti equipment would I use to accomplish this? Some exact models would be a helpful starting point.
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Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
Their management software is free http://www.open-mesh.com/index.php/solutions/cloud-controller.html
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.
Even if it's not necessarily every year, you can't just outright buy it and own it for life.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.
Why is anyone talking about Meraki? That would be crazy to discuss. We are talking about Open-Mesh and Ubquiti.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.
That's because it sucks poop. The cloud section in that image is listed as free.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.
Even if it's not necessarily every year, you can't just outright buy it and own it for life.
Okay, but has nothing to do with this conversation. No one in their right minds would recommend Meraki here even if there was a budget for it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.
Why is anyone talking about Meraki? That would be crazy to discuss. We are talking about Open-Mesh and Ubquiti.
You're missing my point. Can you, with Open-Mesh, buy the hardware outright and never have to pay another penny again for ANYTHING involving the equipment?
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@johnhooks said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.
That's because it sucks poop. The cloud section in that image is listed as free.
Ok, that was my question. I don't know a huge amount about them. That's why I was asking.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.
Why is anyone talking about Meraki? That would be crazy to discuss. We are talking about Open-Mesh and Ubquiti.
You're missing my point. Can you, with Open-Mesh, buy the hardware outright and never have to pay another penny again for ANYTHING involving the equipment?
So we covered this already:
- We pointed out that you made a leap from Open-Mesh being cloud to you creating an imaginary subscription association that does not exist in any way.
- Both you AND we said that there was absolutely no subscription or extra cost. YOU provided the documentation, even!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.
Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.
You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?
Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?
How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.
To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.
Even if it's not necessarily every year, you can't just outright buy it and own it for life.
Okay, but has nothing to do with this conversation. No one in their right minds would recommend Meraki here even if there was a budget for it.
That's odd because just two years ago you were recommending Meraki to a customer. Did they change something to make people hate them now? I use them but only their free system for tracking my phone, PC, etc.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
Ok, that was my question. I don't know a huge amount about them. That's why I was asking.
The problem was... you created an imaginary subscription cost in your mind then was looking for it to be refuted. But there was no such association.
