Android tablet
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@Minion-Queen said:
Well currently at least one of them is 17 and the other is 15 and at least one of them texts from friends phones
See rebellion
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
I know of a few families (with teens) that have one cell phone for the whole family. They do not have a home phone either. A monthly contract on multiple phones is really expensive. So one phone and when you get a text you have to ask who you are talking to. I have like 4 families that I know of that do this.
OK so you know 4 that share phones, how many do you know that share tablets?
Oh man at least 5 or 6 (I have set them all up so). One user account per family thankfully
Do those people all share a single email account? a single pictures repository, etc?
Of course. Remember, in the non-tech savvy world, people actually don't use email much any more. The US, like Italy, has actually moved dramatically backwards in technology. Today teenagers actually think it is "cool" to be luddites. Using texting is far more popular and texting is by device, not account, so sharing of accounts is just assumed once you share devices.
I know lots of people with shared email accounts for the family. That's common, sadly. And shared Facebook, less common.
Even our family with 2+ tablets per person, 1+ laptops per person, a domain for each family member, etc. shares things like picture collections.
shakes head Fine I can accept that kids today don't think email is cool with things like snap chat and intragram, etc.
Not sure how you hang onto any history of information, but hey, maybe they don't need to. I didn't have email as a kid (didn't get my first email account until I was 18 I think) and I survived just fine.
But even so, parents frequently do. And while I do know a few, like two couples, that share a single FB account and email account, this is extremely uncommon in my peer group. It's hard to imagine that parents would want their children to have access to their email - but maybe the parents just don't use their email (or use webmail) from the shared device.
As for kids sharing the same social media accounts - WHAT? no way!
Have you seen SnapChat? The whole point of it is that kids don't want any history AT ALL. Literally they want to deliver the message and have it burn, Mission Impossible style. It's super popular because they don't want anyone to be able to remember or trace or show parents or something like that. It is all the rage and has been for a while. It's the most worthless communications system you have ever seen and when they are adults they are going to seriously regret having recorded, and deleted, their entire lives. But that's what kids do today even more than FB and Instagram.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Each of them generally have their own Facebook accounts. But at least a couple of them do not allow anything like instagram and SnapChat. These are parents who are very careful with their girls and make sure they keep watch on all that is done online.
Instagram is only an interface to Facebook, not its own thing. It's just "filtered Facebook".
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@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Well currently at least one of them is 17 and the other is 15 and at least one of them texts from friends phones
See rebellion
But doesn't email with her own account... she shares texts with someone else. See... still sharing.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Have you seen SnapChat? The whole point of it is that kids don't want any history AT ALL. Literally they want to deliver the message and have it burn, Mission Impossible style. It's super popular because they don't want anyone to be able to remember or trace or show parents or something like that. It is all the rage and has been for a while. It's the most worthless communications system you have ever seen and when they are adults they are going to seriously regret having recorded, and deleted, their entire lives. But that's what kids do today even more than FB and Instagram.
I don't use it, so I couldn't remember which one did what.
But is this lack of data really any different than when we were kids? Probably not. I don't have pictures that I took, memo's/notes, etc that made when I was a kid.
What I do have are the pictures my parents took (when they did) and they are all on pieces of paper scattered to the four corners.
At least these kids have the pictures their parents took and posted to places like FB, etc.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Have you seen SnapChat? The whole point of it is that kids don't want any history AT ALL. Literally they want to deliver the message and have it burn, Mission Impossible style. It's super popular because they don't want anyone to be able to remember or trace or show parents or something like that. It is all the rage and has been for a while. It's the most worthless communications system you have ever seen and when they are adults they are going to seriously regret having recorded, and deleted, their entire lives. But that's what kids do today even more than FB and Instagram.
I don't use it, so I couldn't remember which one did what.
But is this lack of data really any different than when we were kids? Probably not. I don't have pictures that I took, memo's/notes, etc that made when I was a kid.
What I do have are the pictures my parents took (when they did) and they are all on pieces of paper scattered to the four corners.
At least these kids have the pictures their parents took and posted to places like FB, etc.
I have every picture that I took as a kid. You can see them all on Flickr.
The difference is, those of us who don't have that stuff it's because there was no reasonable way to store it. For these kids, they intentionally threw it away. We long for things we didn't have. They will regret things that they had and threw away. We have no fault to bear, they do. And kids making decisions like this, I assume, have parents not too likely to be being careful about protecting memories either.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Well currently at least one of them is 17 and the other is 15 and at least one of them texts from friends phones
See rebellion
But doesn't email with her own account... she shares texts with someone else. See... still sharing.
Because she was given no other choice - I suppose she could have setup an email account, but that leaves traces - and assuming the parents found out she'd be in trouble. In this situation, the parents have forced her into a sharing situation that probably provides her deniability. But it's not by choice, it's by survival due to parental ludditism.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Well currently at least one of them is 17 and the other is 15 and at least one of them texts from friends phones
See rebellion
But doesn't email with her own account... she shares texts with someone else. See... still sharing.
Because she was given no other choice - I suppose she could have setup an email account, but that leaves traces - and assuming the parents found out she'd be in trouble. In this situation, the parents have forced her into a sharing situation that probably provides her deniability. But it's not by choice, it's by survival due to parental ludditism.
Yup, could have easily set up an email account. Text leaves traces too.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yup, could have easily set up an email account. Text leaves traces too.
Sure, but if names aren't included, you have to make a lot of assumptions to lay blame on the non owner of the device.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yup, could have easily set up an email account. Text leaves traces too.
Sure, but if names aren't included, you have to make a lot of assumptions to lay blame on the non owner of the device.
how would email be any different?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yup, could have easily set up an email account. Text leaves traces too.
Sure, but if names aren't included, you have to make a lot of assumptions to lay blame on the non owner of the device.
how would email be any different?
that's a great point, I suppose it really wouldn't be. Just use gmail or whatever free service you can, only access it away from the house. Short of being caught red handed, deniability ensues.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yup, could have easily set up an email account. Text leaves traces too.
Sure, but if names aren't included, you have to make a lot of assumptions to lay blame on the non owner of the device.
how would email be any different?
that's a great point, I suppose it really wouldn't be. Just use gmail or whatever free service you can, only access it away from the house. Short of being caught red handed, deniability ensues.
Exactly. Just don't put your name in the email address
