ML
    • Recent
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Single SSD PCIe vs HDD RAID Reliability

    IT Discussion
    raid ssd storage reliability winchester drive
    4
    44
    13.0k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Francesco Provino
      last edited by

      @Francesco-Provino said:

      This consideration is interesting, but I don't even know if it's possible to put OEM disks in those hot-swap slots…

      Should be, people do it all of the time. It's very standard. There are problems sometimes and the RAID monitoring tools mostly don't work. But blocking non-OEM drives is illegal in many countries (like the US and I presume the EU) so they normally work.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Putting a non-OEM disk into a hot swap bay is no different then putting on into a PCIe bay.

        F 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • F
          Francesco Provino @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Putting a non-OEM disk into a hot swap bay is no different then putting on into a PCIe bay.

          Errr, no, It will lack the caddy, and I don't think they sell it as spare parts.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Oh, I see. I don't use IBM servers (especially now that they don't make them anymore, but even before that as even IBM doesn't use their own servers) and forgot that they might be pulling the caddie trick on you. HP does this as well, Dell and SuperMicro do not.

            You are right, you might be stuck. In the future, I would use this as a solid reason to avoid both IBM and VMware (IBM is gone now, so it matters little) as both are causing you to:

            • Have to spend extra to get less.
            • Avoid standard best practices.
            • Work around basic system limitations.
            • Go to unsupported designs.

            I can see why you are interested in the PCIe SSD approach. It isn't because it is cheap or fast or reliable - it is a workaround to the IBM and VMware decisions 😞 I think, when we look at it from that perspective, it starts to make a lot more sense. From purely a technology standpoint, I don't think that it makes sense.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              I think with all of that info that the PCIe SSD approach makes sense. It will be seriously fast and pretty easy to use. And with the sync and backup options you are pretty decently protected. If you can handle the associated downtime to flip over to the SAN while waiting for the SSD to be replaced you will be fine.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                Assuming the IBM RAID controller will allow the use of non OEM drives, I'd buy a bunch of tiny drives on ebay, rip out the old drive, mount the SSDs and you should be good.

                If you have to to no RAID card (@scottalanmiller - wouldn't this mean he'd have to install a SAS/SATA controller? I'm guessing the system doesn't have onboard support) yet another reason to move to to Hyper-V now.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  He does have on board hardware RAID. The problem is not his card but his hot swap bays.

                  DashrenderD 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    He does have on board hardware RAID. The problem is not his card but his hot swap bays.

                    You mean because of the lack of empty caddies? Sure I understand that, but I addressed that in my post.

                    scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      He does have on board hardware RAID. The problem is not his card but his hot swap bays.

                      You mean because of the lack of empty caddies? Sure I understand that, but I addressed that in my post.

                      oh, meaning rip the caddies off. I didn't understand what you were implying. That makes more sense.

                      DashrenderD 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        He does have on board hardware RAID. The problem is not his card but his hot swap bays.

                        You mean because of the lack of empty caddies? Sure I understand that, but I addressed that in my post.

                        oh, meaning rip the caddies off. I didn't understand what you were implying. That makes more sense.

                        Exactly. I've considered doing the same for my HP server.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • 1
                        • 2
                        • 3
                        • 3 / 3
                        • First post
                          Last post