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@bbigford Do not know anyone in that industry out there.

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Fridge is empty.

They make shops for that. Typically called grocery stores.

What would it mean to thin provision a swap volume?

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Cosmos Darwin: Storage Spaces Direct: 10,000 Clusters and counting

I'm curious to see how much permanent data loss has occurred as a result of using S2D.

Very little, because no one is using it in production. This helps them hide just how bad the situation is. Only 10K clusters means it's not even being tested heavily.

"No one is using it in production." <-- False.

Making broad brush stroke claims like that is fallacious at best.

There are in-production S2D clusters.

The point being, extremely few. To the point of being statistical noise.

Ordering in some dinner. Fridge is empty.

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@scottalanmiller The only link ive clicked on that has been banned by my watchguard in a long time.

Your WatchGuard bans TheChive? That is one huge website. They are so big that they have a television channel here.

@dustinb3403 said in Agent and Agentless Backups:

@scottalanmiller said in Agent and Agentless Backups:

@dustinb3403 said in Agent and Agentless Backups:

@scottalanmiller said in Agent and Agentless Backups:

I don't know a single shop that I've worked with in years now that had an environment where agentless could be used reliably in that way.

But that is you, in your limited experience there, with clients that have opt'd for bad options. Either the agentless systems at the time just sucked, or literally did not have these kinds of features.

You can't go and lump in everything today as "oh it's bad because it's agentless".

Well take your environment for example. Guaranteed agentless can't do it all alone without other backup mechanisms doing the heavy lifting. guaranteed.

Also, I have no idea what you're talking about here, agentless DID do everything that we needed, guaranteed.

How do you know? You are stating the exact attitude that I'm warning about. Unless you've done a deep investigation into your workloads and their ability to be supported by this type of backup, you can't say this. Everyone who gets this wrong states it just like this, this is exactly what we went through with the client and it turned out that they had no reliable backups and had never researched what was needed for their workloads.

Are you saying you have zero workloads that aren't handled by your agentless system? How tiny is the company? Even QuickBooks isn't supported. I've never heard of any company of any size that could just use them. Things like MySQL are not supported without scripting an agent (even if the native one) to handle the reliability piece.

It's just not reasonable to think that the company has an IT staff and only workloads that agentless can handle. That's rare to the point of being a theoretical niche.

This would require things like MS SQL Server to be the only data store in the organization. Typically its' the only one supported. I know of no ERP that can be done agentless, no distributed database, etc.