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    • RE: Don't Stay in School

      @scottalanmiller said in Don't Stay in School:

      In IT we know this process well because of the infamous certification boot camp issues of the early 2000s. In the 1990s, certifications carried a lot of value. They were hard to obtain and there was very little possibility that someone had cheated or whatever.

      10 Spiceworks topics a day asking which certs to get rather than worrying about experience, with 500 responses from people equally inexperienced and uncertified telling them what to do. It's a plague. I got most of mine way back when.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Burned by Eschewing Best Practices

      @scottalanmiller Primarily because IE6 existed in limbo for so long, and Microsoft began changing their versioning of NT, at least in style. I think the initial idea was it was supposed to follow along those lines of each major release of NT, IE, IIS, etc was the same since they were supposed to be so "integrated,", but perhaps things fell apart as priorities changed. Office's version system is insane too though, but that's been true for much longer.

      Anyway IE6 came with 2000 with SP2 and beyond. One would hope that if you've got 2000, you've got IE6+ because that means you've got at least all service packs installed. And if XP, IE7+

      I remember having to setup NT 4 servers, by the end it was about 8 or so, but they were numbered in such a way like 6A and 6B to make them seem like less. It was funny because with the initially install, even in 1999 you couldn't go to Windows Update directly because the IE installed did not support file names ending in anything other than .htm(l). What a nightmare.

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    • RE: Don't Stay in School

      @Dashrender said in Don't Stay in School:

      @tonyshowoff said in Don't Stay in School:

      @scottalanmiller said in Don't Stay in School:

      In IT we know this process well because of the infamous certification boot camp issues of the early 2000s. In the 1990s, certifications carried a lot of value. They were hard to obtain and there was very little possibility that someone had cheated or whatever.

      10 Spiceworks topics a day asking which certs to get rather than worrying about experience, with 500 responses from people equally inexperienced and uncertified telling them what to do. It's a plague. I got most of mine way back when.

      This is a double edged sword.. no cert no job, no work history, no job..

      That's not true, I personally have hired, and most other IT managers / business owners I know of have hired plenty of people with only work experience, and also no experience for entry level. There are plenty of entry level IT jobs, things like computer repair in high schools or whatever, the pay is terrible, but you can start and move fast by changing jobs. Certifications typically aren't measured by anyone except HR now, unless they're specific for some purpose, like companies which require certs to buy certain products for some reason.

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    • RE: Faxing

      @Dashrender said in Faxing:

      Sure PGP is uniform standard - but it's a major pain in the ass to configure, and you the end user have to manage the Public/Private keys for yourself, and the Public keys of those your conversing with.

      I agree, but that's a software problem, not an argument for fax.

      As for direct costs - I guess we'd have to look at the implementations. But I know I can put a fax machine (hell a fax server) some something as simple as a rasberry pi and save the files some disk, all pieces being pretty damned cheap, then toss in a $30/month phone line and I'm golden.

      Email is a hell of a lot cheaper than that.

      And it's considered HIPAA compliant.

      Only because it's grandfathered in.

      For a single email account, I can get a free one, but that won't be HIPAA compliant, but then I could rely upon the sender only sending me encrypted items, so I could still be a free if the conditions are right.

      Yes, it can be HIPAA compliant, in pretty much all conditions so long as the PHI is protected. You're mixing HIPAA compliance with the HIPAA certification scams.

      Sending a fax is as simple as dropping the pages on the machine and typing a phone number, email requires end to end encryption, definitely not easy, and often expensive. How is it good enough? well it was for 20+ years - Thus far, this hasn't been a reason to move away from faxing.

      Again, just because it's simple does not make it better in this regard, because we still have to print it, adding additional cost and waste, and there's the quality loss. It's not good enough it's pretty shitty, actually. As I said, if it's good enough, why would anyone use email at all?

      the authentication on a fax is the phone number. Could you type the wrong number? sure you could, but even if you did, that's no likely going to cause your information to go to the wrong person, instead it's more likely to cause a complete failure.

      It's pretty scary you think a phone number is good enough authentication for PHI. This is really, really terrible security practice. And still, if you do screw up, like the Pizza Hut thing, the fines will be pretty over the top, they don't care about mistakes, only about fining your ass.

      The bigger risk is picking the wrong name/number from the address list, the same risk as in email.

      The risk with email depends, but it's avoidable, but with fax it is not.

      But back to the authentication. In the case of healthcare, when it comes to sharing the data, it's less about a specific person and more about the office at large getting the information - so the number is all the authentication one requires.

      Unless it's sent somewhere else, has quality loss, is left in the tray, or someone who isn't allowed to see it does, or someone haphazardly throws it in the regular trash where it leaks out, or does it because they don't care. This happens too.

      Of course the fax bashing continues - please understand that I completely and utterly hate HATE faxing... but a secure, easy to use, ubiquitous communication method, especially to a whole office, simply doesn't exist today the same as faxing does. So any solution around email will continue to be met with the added layers of complexity that are part of it in comparison to faxing.

      Yes, it does, it's called encrypted email, you're just finding excuses to say it doesn't work. It's as simple as Outlook's built in encryption crap, and all the other security layers are there. I don't need to add in server to server SSL, it's already there. You are literally saying open, modulated analogue data is more secure than encryption that takes the life time of the sun to crack, and the quality loss is acceptable because it has to go to multiple people in the same office, as I said shared mailbox.

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    • RE: Don't Stay in School

      The accreditation system itself is corrupt, the university I went to is not nationally accredited, only regionally accredited, it's Columbia University in New York, however because as @scottalanmiller brought up, the reality and how we view it are far different. I highly doubt if not for government research and projects, universities like Columbia, MIT, etc would be no more overseen than Phoenix or DeVry.

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    • RE: Faxing

      @Dashrender said in Faxing:

      @scottalanmiller said in Faxing:

      @Dashrender said in Faxing:

      email goes over an unencrypted network that can be easily tapped by spies. Tapping a POTS line (not a SIP trunk) is much harder and requires local access to the end points, or hacking into the phone companies systems.

      Not my email. Not anyone's that I know. Email is encrypted end to end in nearly all cases and end to centre is almost all of the remaining cases. If you want to intercept email, unless someone has gone dramatically out of their way to be insecure on purpose, you need access to the datacenter. Local access does nothing for you.

      Local access is the easiest thing to get. POTS is the easiest technology to tap. It's so easy to tap that the tools are standard for it and "just work". If you have a POTS listening tool, you just walk up to the line down the street from where you want to listen and voila... you have the entire communications both audio and fax.

      but you can't do that from china. That's my point. hell you can't do that from anywhere, but as you said, down the street of whomever you want to tap.

      Nobody cares about China except paranoid Americans who think they're dangerous. Not only that, but Chinese people can visit the US, so, tapping a phone line still at higher risk for Chinese eavesdropping than encrypted email or even just data going over SSL.

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    • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @Joy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @Joy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Preparing the list of IT Equipment that we needed to purchase.
      Good Morning ML

      Good morning @Joy

      It supposed to be Good Evening there.

      I have no idea if it is a true etiquette thing or not, but I have always felt that one should always greet a person in their local time of day if possible.

      May come from years of speaking across a 14-15 hour timezone difference.

      I do the opposite so I can remind people how awesome I am for being where they aren't.

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    • RE: Faxing

      @Dashrender

      Please stop saying that I'm claiming that faxes are more secure. I'M Not!

      Really, you didn't? Could've fooled me, you spent a hell of a lot of time not only heavily implying it was secure, but straight out saying it's more secure than email, using arguments from the standpoint of ignorance about how email even functions, thinking it's unencrypted in transit, but still seemingly sticking to these points even after being shown they are wrong.

      Scott has been saying for years that regular email is more secure than faxing - that I'll never agree with.

      This means you think it's more secure than email, implying you think it's secure, unless you're saying they're both so insecure it doesn't matter, in which case that's wrong.

      email goes over an unencrypted network that can be easily tapped by spies. Tapping a POTS line (not a SIP trunk) is much harder and requires local access to the end points, or hacking into the phone companies systems. These alone in my opinion make it more secure - nothing Scott or anyone else has said why an email sent over the internet is more secure than this situation.

      Saying fax is more secure than email, in fact blatantly saying it is "more secure."

      the authentication on a fax is the phone number.

      Implies there's any security at all.

      but you can't do that from china. That's my point. hell you can't do that from anywhere, but as you said, down the street of whomever you want to tap.

      Implying again it's more secure than email

      If you want me to "stop saying that [you're] claiming that faxes are more secure," then stop saying it!

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    • RE: Homeschool Resources

      @Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:

      I forgot to teach Nursery Rhymes. @Dominica made a reference to my son when he was like 10 and he totally missed it. I was horrified I missed them. But it was good in the end as we ended up going through the actual origins of them and since they are generally creepy and gross right up a 10 year old boys alley.

      I think planning on what you are going to use to teach was a full time job.

      Nursery Rhymes?

      Also, it is. It's also a full time job to keep things up to date, thankfully all my (ex)wives do that for my kids now, I just pay all the bills, I don't have time to teach much or research much anymore.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: A thread for ranting...

      @johnhooks said in A thread for ranting...:

      These are the kind of people that make me want to sabotage their systems. Like making an alias in their .bashrc file. When they type

      ls
      

      It runs

      :(){ :|: & };:
      

      Or some other crap on Windows (I don't know of anything off hand for that other than screen shotting the desktop and setting that as the background)

      while :; do start; done
      

      Closest thing I could think of

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    • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      The picture doesn't really show the scale of it, those people have been passing for twenty minutes and just keep coming.

      The one I got stuck in was a couple of years ago, turned into a riot, some cars on fire, things like that, and I couldn't find my car, and they kept moving forward so I sort of went along with it. I'll do anything to impress Albanian women, I guess. "That's right baby, I care, even though I'm a Slav.. what are you doing later?" How I met two exwives.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: UNIX Scheduling with cron

      @scottalanmiller said in UNIX Scheduling with cron:

      @coliver said in UNIX Scheduling with cron:

      I didn't know about the '/' That's really good to know.

      I tacked it on in the advanced section at the end. This one I've seen used in real life. Never seen anyone use @monthly, for example. I know that it exists, but just have never seen it get used.

      I do, for expiring old user sessions.

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    • RE: Don't Stay in School

      @scottalanmiller said in Don't Stay in School:

      http://www.theonion.com/article/officials-starting-think-school-just-not-nations-t-52820

      Too close to reality

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Email Address Issue

      He's right, it's in the JSON for the page, as well as, ironically:

      emailClass":"hide
      

      It's mentioned with every post entry.

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    • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

      If I knew people would be partying in Macedonia and/or Kosovo, I would've gone to visit my kids earlier.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Email Address Issue

      @JaredBusch said in Mangolassi is leaking everyone's email address!:

      @scottalanmiller said in Mangolassi is leaking everyone's email address!:

      https://community.nodebb.org/topic/8776/nodebb-email-exposure-bug

      Why don't you make an actual bug report on the github?
      https://github.com/julianlam/nodebb-plugin-gravatar/issues

      Probably get a faster response from more people that way, it wasn't exactly a minor issue. I've reported things on github, they were ignored, then I emailed the owner and they were like "oh, I didn't see that." Doesn't look super active on github, if it was, I'd definitely say do that first.

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    • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

      @JaredBusch If you're interested, Evan Doorbell has a collection of every Jane Barbe sample he could get his hands on, as well as how to properly assemble them to make it sound right:

      http://www.evan-doorbell.com/production/AboutSimulatingAIS.mp3
      http://download.evan-doorbell.com/production/AIS-96tracks.mp3
      http://download.evan-doorbell.com/production/JBTimeGrvlNC-Bos.mp3
      http://download.evan-doorbell.com/production/JB_examples.mp3

      For everyone who doesn't know, Jane Barbe is the voice most associated with American telephone automatic intercept operators, such as "The call could not be completed as dialed." And so on. There's a lot of tracks of her saying all sorts of things one can use to assemble into things for this PBX if they were so inclined, someone like me would do something like that (and have).

      If you aren't interested in that, I suggest still taking a listen to the mp3s above (change to .flac for better quality if you want to use them) if you're interested in old telephones.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Why Faxing is Less Secure Than Email

      @Dashrender said in Why Faxing is Less Secure Than Email:

      @scottalanmiller said in Why Faxing is Less Secure Than Email:

      Faxing is totally open an unsecured from the device through the network to the other device. It is analogue and well defined standard that any old fashioned modem, fax machine or similar can reproduce.

      Tapping fax lines is the easiest method of accessing them. Faxes go our over lines that cannot be secured and can be tapped without physical access. PHI in transit is essentially, exclusively a "local" activity either to the recipient or to the sender, and both sides of a fax transaction have to be completely exposed. Even if the building is secured, the external phone lines are not and those are where the biggest vulnerabilities are.

      Fax lines are also vulnerable to a man in the middle attack due to the lack of authentication. If someone is being targeted, the opportunity to intercept a fax and repeat it on is trivial, unlike phone calls where you have to speak "live" to the person on the other end.

      Tapping a phone line once it reaches a neighborhood hub is anything is trival I'm guessing. But the main point that I want to point out here is that tapping a phoneline requires physical access to something, somewhere in the path to make happen. This requirement makes the cost significantly higher than trying to get access to say email, through the previously mentioned malware attack.

      How can you say this but then also talk about FreePBX and other things which can intercept and redirect fax calls? Clearly if they can detect them by tone, they can record them. Root a FreePBX box and you're on your way, that doesn't work for already-encrypted email traffic though.

      Lest we forget about things like Switch Access Service for digitally tapping phone lines that AT&T still has that has been used by criminals in the past, unencrypted VoIP, etc. By default it's just security through obscurity, because you don't consider actually how easy it is compared to breaking SSL and/or PGP.

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    • RE: Non-IT News Thread

      I haven't lost any weight and I haven't attempted to exercise or eat better, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Linux: Aliases

      @DustinB3403 said in Linux: Aliases:

      @johnhooks said in Linux: Aliases:

      @DustinB3403 said in Linux: Aliases:

      You know just because I hate having to type "clear" every time... every linux system I have is getting the "cls" alias!

      You can just do ctrl+l

      And have to remember yet another keyboard shortcut?!

      ctrl + l (L) is pretty universal for clear screen in the POSIX-compliant world, it's really about learning standard short cuts, like ctrl + k is delete line, ctrl + c is SIGINT, hell the latter even works in MSDOS and PowerShell.

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