@thanksajdotcom said:
What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?

So, your moral compass is completely dependent upon what someone else thinks? If you're with a group of people breaking the law, you're okay with it because they are? If you visit a country where having sex with kids is allowed, you're okay with it because they are?

Your decisions are yours. You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before. Just because you haven't been caught and probably won't be caught changes nothing. Your moral compass is broken. Admit it and move on, breaking whatever rules you feel you can get away with breaking.

And, while doing that, go on and wonder why your IT career seems to keep falling apart each and every time you seem to get a decent job.

@thanksajdotcom said:

@PaulBunion said:

@thanksajdotcom said:

What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?

So, your moral compass is completely dependent upon what someone else thinks? If you're with a group of people breaking the law, you're okay with it because they are? If you visit a country where having sex with kids is allowed, you're okay with it because they are?

Your decisions are yours. You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before. Just because you haven't been caught and probably won't be caught changes nothing. Your moral compass is broken. Admit it and move on, breaking whatever rules you feel you can get away with breaking.

And, while doing that, go on and wonder why your IT career seems to keep falling apart each and every time you seem to get a decent job.

No it is not. I take what others think and feel into consideration, combine it with my own views, and proceed accordingly.

I am also a big picture thinker. In the large scheme of things, does using a key in the cloud instead of locally when it's legitimate locally, but technically not in the cloud going to hurt anyone? No. Did anyone die, lose a job, go without food, or suffer some other harm? No. I don't even think of this in the same way as I do speeding on the highway. When you speed, there is a higher risk you could lose control and hurt someone, or worse, kill someone. You could harm yourself or wreck your car and then have no ride to get to work, etc. Still, most people do that every day.

In the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes. You say my moral compass is broken. I just choose what things I'm going to choose to exert energy caring about, because I don't have the energy to spare worrying about little, inconsequential stuff anymore.

I see. So, it's all about whether you think it matters or not. The fact that these things do matter, to others, isn't relevant to you because your 'big picture thinking' is more important than the actual written laws.

Good luck with that.

@thanksajdotcom said:

Most of the time that people argue with me trying to get me to admit I'm "wrong", they don't even realize that they are fighting the wrong fight. On most things, it's not that I'm fighting that I'm right. I'm just trying to explain that when the information I have goes into my head, the output is not what they're getting. My conclusion is not always right, although it many times has been. My conclusion is how my mind interprets the data and determines the result of the problem presented. Take it for what you will.

Yes, that is how the brain works. Information goes in and conclusions come out. If your conclusions are proven incorrect that would mean you are "wrong". You are, of course, free to believe that it means something different. No laws, no rules, can tell you what to think. That's about the only real, true, freedom anyone has.

However, when you start interacting with others, the rules and laws make a difference. If you decide to ignore them there can be real consequences that you will be forced to deal with.

Take that for what you will.

@thanksajdotcom said:

Most of the time that people argue with me trying to get me to admit I'm "wrong", they don't even realize that they are fighting the wrong fight. On most things, it's not that I'm fighting that I'm right. I'm just trying to explain that when the information I have goes into my head, the output is not what they're getting. My conclusion is not always right, although it many times has been. My conclusion is how my mind interprets the data and determines the result of the problem presented. Take it for what you will.

Yes, that is how the brain works. Information goes in and conclusions come out. If your conclusions are proven incorrect that would mean you are "wrong". You are, of course, free to believe that it means something different. No laws, no rules, can tell you what to think. That's about the only real, true, freedom anyone has.

However, when you start interacting with others, the rules and laws make a difference. If you decide to ignore them there can be real consequences that you will be forced to deal with.

Take that for what you will.

@thanksajdotcom said:

@PaulBunion said:

@thanksajdotcom said:

What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?

So, your moral compass is completely dependent upon what someone else thinks? If you're with a group of people breaking the law, you're okay with it because they are? If you visit a country where having sex with kids is allowed, you're okay with it because they are?

Your decisions are yours. You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before. Just because you haven't been caught and probably won't be caught changes nothing. Your moral compass is broken. Admit it and move on, breaking whatever rules you feel you can get away with breaking.

And, while doing that, go on and wonder why your IT career seems to keep falling apart each and every time you seem to get a decent job.

No it is not. I take what others think and feel into consideration, combine it with my own views, and proceed accordingly.

I am also a big picture thinker. In the large scheme of things, does using a key in the cloud instead of locally when it's legitimate locally, but technically not in the cloud going to hurt anyone? No. Did anyone die, lose a job, go without food, or suffer some other harm? No. I don't even think of this in the same way as I do speeding on the highway. When you speed, there is a higher risk you could lose control and hurt someone, or worse, kill someone. You could harm yourself or wreck your car and then have no ride to get to work, etc. Still, most people do that every day.

In the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes. You say my moral compass is broken. I just choose what things I'm going to choose to exert energy caring about, because I don't have the energy to spare worrying about little, inconsequential stuff anymore.

I see. So, it's all about whether you think it matters or not. The fact that these things do matter, to others, isn't relevant to you because your 'big picture thinking' is more important than the actual written laws.

Good luck with that.

@thanksajdotcom said:
What's technically allowed versus what your ISP actually cares about is totally different. In my opinion, if the ISP doesn't care, even if it's outside the official TOS, why should I?

So, your moral compass is completely dependent upon what someone else thinks? If you're with a group of people breaking the law, you're okay with it because they are? If you visit a country where having sex with kids is allowed, you're okay with it because they are?

Your decisions are yours. You know you are breaking the TOS here. You know you are breaking the MS license talked about before. Just because you haven't been caught and probably won't be caught changes nothing. Your moral compass is broken. Admit it and move on, breaking whatever rules you feel you can get away with breaking.

And, while doing that, go on and wonder why your IT career seems to keep falling apart each and every time you seem to get a decent job.