@Dashrender said:

@NattNatt said:

@Jason said:

@NattNatt said:

@Jason said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@samy said:

@Jason because he' s the chairman..

I have to agree with NattNatt, that means that his laptop would be important, not trivial. All the more reason to have it be secure. The chairman falling below the most basic security level and being treated like an illiterate home user is... very bad. Not only is it bad for the chairman's own usability, it shows his own disregard and disrespect for the company itself. And it sends a message from the chairman to the rest of the company... he sees the company as a joke, so why should they take it seriously?

Yep. None of our Board, Key investors, CEO, COO, CFO etc have admin rights the CIO doesn't run in an admin account either (but has one).

Well that's set up correctly at least... but that's like locking your house, windows, cat flap etc...but leaving the keys in the ignition of your car outside... Yes, you've secured most of it, but the biggest and easiest thing to do is unsecure...

How's that? The CIO is an IT postion so he will have and admin account at any company.

Yes, but his main ISNT an admin account..? You said he has one, but doesn't use it day-to-day, which is how it should be..? But the fact the Chairman's laptop isn't even on the domain is always going to be the point of failure...

That was the OP's situation, not @Jason's situation.

So it was, the lack of avatar confuses me, thought they were the same person, my bad :') apologies @Jason - thought it was OP trying to say "but we did all this stuff" to try and make the initial thing seem better...

@wirestyle22 said:

2:30 PM is my presentation o.O

Be a boss, and own that shit. (whatever it is)

@Dashrender said:

@Jason said:

@NattNatt said:

@Jason said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@samy said:

@Jason because he' s the chairman..

I have to agree with NattNatt, that means that his laptop would be important, not trivial. All the more reason to have it be secure. The chairman falling below the most basic security level and being treated like an illiterate home user is... very bad. Not only is it bad for the chairman's own usability, it shows his own disregard and disrespect for the company itself. And it sends a message from the chairman to the rest of the company... he sees the company as a joke, so why should they take it seriously?

Yep. None of our Board, Key investors, CEO, COO, CFO etc have admin rights the CIO doesn't run in an admin account either (but has one).

Well that's set up correctly at least... but that's like locking your house, windows, cat flap etc...but leaving the keys in the ignition of your car outside... Yes, you've secured most of it, but the biggest and easiest thing to do is unsecure...

How's that? The CIO is an IT postion so he will have and admin account at any company.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Sure, the CEO shouldn't have an admin account, but the CIO is the head of IT. If they want it, they can and should have it.

@Jason said:

the CIO doesn't run in an admin account either (but has one).

^ How I read it is he has one (as he should) but doesn't use his admin account for day-to-day stuff (which again, is the way it should be)?

@Jason said:

@NattNatt said:

@Jason said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@samy said:

@Jason because he' s the chairman..

I have to agree with NattNatt, that means that his laptop would be important, not trivial. All the more reason to have it be secure. The chairman falling below the most basic security level and being treated like an illiterate home user is... very bad. Not only is it bad for the chairman's own usability, it shows his own disregard and disrespect for the company itself. And it sends a message from the chairman to the rest of the company... he sees the company as a joke, so why should they take it seriously?

Yep. None of our Board, Key investors, CEO, COO, CFO etc have admin rights the CIO doesn't run in an admin account either (but has one).

Well that's set up correctly at least... but that's like locking your house, windows, cat flap etc...but leaving the keys in the ignition of your car outside... Yes, you've secured most of it, but the biggest and easiest thing to do is unsecure...

How's that? The CIO is an IT postion so he will have and admin account at any company.

Yes, but his main ISNT an admin account..? You said he has one, but doesn't use it day-to-day, which is how it should be..? But the fact the Chairman's laptop isn't even on the domain is always going to be the point of failure...

@Jason said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@samy said:

@Jason because he' s the chairman..

I have to agree with NattNatt, that means that his laptop would be important, not trivial. All the more reason to have it be secure. The chairman falling below the most basic security level and being treated like an illiterate home user is... very bad. Not only is it bad for the chairman's own usability, it shows his own disregard and disrespect for the company itself. And it sends a message from the chairman to the rest of the company... he sees the company as a joke, so why should they take it seriously?

Yep. None of our Board, Key investors, CEO, COO, CFO etc have admin rights the CIO doesn't run in an admin account either (but has one).

Well that's set up correctly at least... but that's like locking your house, windows, cat flap etc...but leaving the keys in the ignition of your car outside... Yes, you've secured most of it, but the biggest and easiest thing to do is unsecure...

@Dashrender said:

@NattNatt said:

If you can get the HDD out and connect to another machine as a secondary drive, can you get the data that way? (not tried with Win10 install, so not sure if it locks it down...)

As long as you don't have drive encryption enabled, you will have full access this way.

Of course individual files could have encryption, but I can't see why that would have been affected by this.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, then, when you have the data, you can factory reset and do it right the second time around.

If you can get the HDD out and connect to another machine as a secondary drive, can you get the data that way? (not tried with Win10 install, so not sure if it locks it down...)

Our R&D department have just broken our ticket system, phone system and more...everything is down...

@scottalanmiller said:

@NattNatt said:

@hobbit666 Long weekend ahead though!

Is there a holiday?

There's two...Good Friday AND Easter Monday...4 day weekend ftw!!

@hobbit666 Long weekend ahead though!

@samy said:

@Jason because he' s the chairman..

That's more reason FOR him to be under the same security features as everyone else...surely he has more sensitive data/information than anyone else...

Most toilets flush in E flat.

Gonna check out Lurking tonight - downloaded it last night, but was caught up in a few different projects so didn't have time to game sadface - but long weekend starts later today!!

@scottalanmiller said:

Power has been out here all morning. Epic storm continuing from yesterday. Winds are so high we are watching roofs made of tile get torn apart. This is nuts. Who knows when we will get power back. All we have is our phone charges left now.

Damn Stay safe!

Downgrading a new laptop to windows 7

@scottalanmiller said:

Power has gone out at least five times today. Wind here is crazy, it's ripped a few windows open throughout the day!

Must be that Greek food

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

@Jason said:

@Dashrender said:

Personally, it feels like the FBI's backing off with a claim of a third party is every bit as likely that they feel they are loosing the case and want to back away from this before precedent is set.

I would not be surprised if there is a programmer.. maybe one who left apple or was terminated and has it out for the company that can do this.

Interesting - If that's true, I have serious doubts about their entire security model!

Yes, for sure. The question would be.. is there a back door, a known weakness or did someone steal the key. If the later, the FBI can't use it and the evidence would be useless.

Actually is that true? I don't know the law, but if the FBI themselves weren't involved in the theft, are you sure they can't use it?

If they pay someone to steal, they are very much involved in the theft. If you hire a hitman, you still go to jail.

I clearly didn't give enough information. If the ex employee stole the key before this case even started, with no influences from the FBI (or any government branch) - and let's assume that to be true - now what?

Same thing, if the evidence wasn't obtained lawfully, and it is brought to light, then the evidence is admissible (certainly in the UK legal system)...hence why they might not ask many questions then they can say "well we didn't know, so it still counts" kind of thing...

But not sure how this would work when it's not a court case (I presume since they're dead they can't be tried...)

@scottalanmiller said:

Day of the Tentacle has released!!

sounds like a dodgy Hentai to me...

@Kelly said:

@NattNatt said:

Just started two giveaways for FFVIII and FFXIII-2 on SG...never been a fan and got keys in the Square Enix Easter surprise box...also got a 20% voucher for JC3 and the new Tomb Raider if anyone wants them?

What is SG?

Steam Gifts - http://www.steamgifts.com/ - link your steam account, enter giveaways/give games away you have codes for and don't want...I've won a fair few games on it!

@dafyre said:

@NattNatt said:

Just started two giveaways for FFVIII and FFXIII-2 on SG...never been a fan and got keys in the Square Enix Easter surprise box...also got a 20% voucher for JC3 and the new Tomb Raider if anyone wants them?

You are giving them away, or someone else is... and what is SG?

I'm giving them away lol...

Just started two giveaways for FFVIII and FFXIII-2 on SG...never been a fan and got keys in the Square Enix Easter surprise box...also got a 20% voucher for JC3 and the new Tomb Raider if anyone wants them?