What happen to Mangolassi? I can't access almost 30 mins

Time to go home for me
Have a great night to all of you!

@scottalanmiller said:

@Joy said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Joy said:

Installing some application on the computer to be used by a programmer

What application is that?

Visual Studio for Web
Visual Studio for Windows Desktop
MySQL Server
IIS 8.0

Don't use any of those tools. You are making a heavy decision to be locked into expensive tools and a lack of flexibility. Don't touch VS or IIS until you are far down the development road and really understand why to use them.

It was requested by user

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@scottalanmiller said:

@Joy said:

Installing some application on the computer to be used by a programmer

What application is that?

Visual Studio for Web
Visual Studio for Windows Desktop
MySQL Server
IIS 8.0

Installing some application on the computer to be used by a programmer

@StrongBad said:

@Joy said:

= I already asked them about it, They said same money, same responsibilities

Don't ask, tell. This is not for them to decide. They need you, you don't want them. You tell them what your numbers are and end it at that. Don't let them make any decision except to accept your offer or not. This is not something for you to let them control. The power is yours unless you give it up.

Hmm okay I'll do that just in case they will ask me again.
I need to Weigh my decision

So I was thinking of learning something new, I'm always amazed with the programmers who do programming
I want to learn on how to write a program.
Can you please suggest me if where do i need to start?

Warning: If you ask me about " what language i want to learn?
and my answer is i "don't really know"
I'm not really planning to become a programmer, I just want to use my free time to learn something new.

@JaredBusch said:

@Joy said:

Sorry i was referring for the Old apartment that i been lived before in the province.
right now the commute should be 5 to 10 mins only but sometimes it will take 30 t0 45 mins due to traffic

Ok, now this is more clear.

You could commute from home and have lower living expenses, but that is 3 hours one way.
=Yes, and most of the time traffic is really worst

You have opted for bed space knowing it is higher living expenses, but much closer to work with only 15 minutes of commute time.
=True,

So this part of things is how much does the higher cost of living affect your goals for income?

=Yes, I was thinking additional about the tax

Determine that and then you will be able to begin to determine how much more they would be required to offer you in order for you to take a job again with your prior employer.

= I already asked them about it, They said same money, same responsibilities

@s.hackleman said:

@Joy you can infuse any vodka with about anything you want too. Just put your vegetables into the bottle or another container and let it sit at least 2 weeks. Last year I took onions, tomato, and hot peppers and made a bloody marry vodka that was awesome. I just used the cheap off brand to start with.

Wow! I want to do that too..I will try that on weekend when i get home

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Like I'm Gonna Lose You- I love those songs

@scottalanmiller said:

They need a "slam the phone" button that makes a slamming sound on the other end and automatically disconnects.

It could be the "hang up with prejudice" button or something.

Guys, I can't really totally disconnect from them.. They are good people
I mean i started to grow up with them, they trust me to handle everything given that I'm Zero knowledge when i worked for them

@Dashrender said:

@Joy said:

@JaredBusch said:

@Joy said:

It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.

3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?

Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?

6 hours commute of total

You do that every day?

That was before i decided to look for bed space so that i don't need to go home everyday

No Plans this weekend , Just work

@gjacobse said:

Joy -

I think one what to work this out if you want ot just look at numbers is to factor every hour from when you close and lock your door heading to work and when you return to that door again at the endo f the day.

A three hour journey one way to the office is not a great way to start your day. Nor is it a good way to end it. Your 8 hour work day becomes a 14 hour day. Even if you are making more with the new company - you could be making less overall with just the commute.

Factor in your expenses and it just compounds that.

Now having said that What makes you happy? So often we make a choice about work solely based on money... But happiness trumps money.

Yes , I tried to do it first. and I'm always tired of my commute so i decided to look for bed space in the City.

@Dashrender said:

@Joy said:

@JaredBusch said:

@Joy said:

It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.

3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?

Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?

6 hours commute of total

You do that every day?

Sorry i was referring for the Old apartment that i been lived before in the province.
right now the commute should be 5 to 10 mins only but sometimes it will take 30 t0 45 mins due to traffic

@JaredBusch said:

@Joy said:

It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.

3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?

Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?

6 hours commute of total

@Dashrender said:

And the old company won't offer more than you were making before? Yeah I can't see making that move back.

Yes, they wont

@dafyre said:

If you enjoy your current job and have some room to grow... I would wonder why you were considering going back?

How far away is it from where you live now?

Well I'm still trying to figure out why I'm thinking to go back there.

It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.

@Dashrender said:

I'm a little confused. Are they offering you the same money you make today to go back there? Or are they offering you your old pay to go back there?

If they are offering you the old pay, what's the difference between the old pay and the new pay? And what expenses do you have now that you would not have if you moved back?

There's a big difference with my old pay and new pay.
The old pay-basically above minimum wage of the City with conditional-Like if you have lates or memo you can't get your whole Salary-Allowance. Low tax. Unlimited hours of overtime, no shifting because I'm the Leader, 5 days paid leave lols.
New Job- Above minimum wage, 8 hours -shifting-with HMO and 22 days leave with pay. Plus some bonuses if the economy is pretty good.

Expenses is the same, I'm helping my siblings in college.
In The Province- rent of apartment is cheap, If you have 3k, you can get a nice apartment. Plus no need to commute daily. Just 3 mins walk.
In The City- Basically rent for apartment is around 5k for one room only, so I'm on bed spacing right now (shared toilet and bath,common living room and kitchen).Commute daily, Plus the traffic.