Is there any way, via a registry or GPO, to fill in the field shown? I've done some searching and there doesn't seem to be anything that actually works. Most suggest to edit the HKLM/Software/ODBC/ODBC.INI/<dsn_name>/password Key, or to add it. I've done that and then the ODBC tool doesn't update after changing it.
@scottalanmiller said in Why are local drives better:
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@travisdh1 said in Why are local drives better:
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@Dashrender said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
ay max at 3, 6 or 3.2 16 Gbit/s (1969 MB/s). Ergo, a 10GB FCoE SAN that's running OBR10 or Raid6 with a large SSD/RAM c
You can literally use local disk for any thing you can use remote disk. So I'm not really sure what you're digging for.
Transfer rates. A local bus will max at 6, while a SAN on a 10 GB link (or dual 10s, whatever) can go higher as the node can cache in RAM and then write back to the drives that are local to the SAN at the slower, local rate.
So, just like the cache on a local controller?
Does your local controller have a 256gb cache?
If I've got that much ram assigned to it, sure, why not?
I've worked on local storage systems that have that much cache just recently, in fact.
Cool. Many of the systems I've seen deployed and worked with are so old that a 1gb cache is considered exotic.
That's only on commodity hardware with hardware RAID. That's generally what SAN and NAS skip to get around those limitations.
@scottalanmiller said in Why are local drives better:
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@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
@travisdh1 said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
@Dashrender said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
ay max at 3, 6 or 3.2 16 Gbit/s (1969 MB/s). Ergo, a 10GB FCoE SAN that's running OBR10 or Raid6 with a large SSD/RAM c
You can literally use local disk for any thing you can use remote disk. So I'm not really sure what you're digging for.
Transfer rates. A local bus will max at 6, while a SAN on a 10 GB link (or dual 10s, whatever) can go higher as the node can cache in RAM and then write back to the drives that are local to the SAN at the slower, local rate.
So, just like the cache on a local controller?
Does your local controller have a 256gb cache?
If I've got that much ram assigned to it, sure, why not?
I've worked on local storage systems that have that much cache just recently, in fact.
Cool. Many of the systems I've seen deployed and worked with are so old that a 1gb cache is considered exotic.
@travisdh1 said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
@Dashrender said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
ay max at 3, 6 or 3.2 16 Gbit/s (1969 MB/s). Ergo, a 10GB FCoE SAN that's running OBR10 or Raid6 with a large SSD/RAM c
You can literally use local disk for any thing you can use remote disk. So I'm not really sure what you're digging for.
Transfer rates. A local bus will max at 6, while a SAN on a 10 GB link (or dual 10s, whatever) can go higher as the node can cache in RAM and then write back to the drives that are local to the SAN at the slower, local rate.
So, just like the cache on a local controller?
Does your local controller have a 256gb cache?
@Dashrender said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
ay max at 3, 6 or 3.2 16 Gbit/s (1969 MB/s). Ergo, a 10GB FCoE SAN that's running OBR10 or Raid6 with a large SSD/RAM c
You can literally use local disk for any thing you can use remote disk. So I'm not really sure what you're digging for.
Transfer rates. A local bus will max at 6, while a SAN on a 10 GB link (or dual 10s, whatever) can go higher as the node can cache in RAM and then write back to the drives that are local to the SAN at the slower, local rate.
The problem with LE is that all of their certs last 3 months. They force you to renew via automation, which can be great for security, and could increase your administrative load.
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just dodged a bullet of a tornado here... It went about 15 minutes north of us.
That sounds like a go home event here.
No, generally driving and being at home rather than an office NOT things you do in a tornado!
Unless you work from home and you have a storm shelter.
@scottalanmiller said in Weekend Plans:
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@Minion-Queen said in Weekend Plans:
Anybody have anything fun planned?
I'm going to see Alton Brown on Sunday. Eat Your Science!
I bet that is a cool show.
Watch a couple youtube videos. You'll want to go.
@Minion-Queen said in Weekend Plans:
Anybody have anything fun planned?
I'm going to see Alton Brown on Sunday. Eat Your Science!
@JaredBusch said in What did you have for lunch or dinner today?:
Surprise, I am at panera.
Carbs much?
@scottalanmiller said in What did you have for lunch or dinner today?:
I had a cheese sandwich at 3am.
Unless it was grilled, then this is just lazy food.
Installing tftp client & troubleshooting WDS.
@DustinB3403 said in Why are local drives better:
It could be used as Storage Repo (much like ISCSI) for a hypervisor or any file server.
This would only make sense if you're doing a single LOGICAL volume which has a physical array.
@DustinB3403 said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
@DustinB3403 said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
@DustinB3403 said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey While I agree, I agree for different reasoning.
The array protection, isn't something that I think needs to be thought of in the traditional sense. I do agree that the local drive needs to be excluded from anything but secure services. So ransomware etc couldn't mess it up.
Maybe we're thinking on different levels. Are you only talking about DAS or is there something else here?
Yea.... haha
sorry for being so vague, just trying to get some ideas. Ignore raid. Its not an item to consider.
So, this is a workstation?
It could be workstation, it could also be a server. Just looking for possible use cases of a locally attached disk.
The only reason is for speed, in my world. You could do an SSD DAS (array or not) and it will be faster than any NAS, until you get up to the level of a fiber network SAN that has more transfer speed than the SAS or SATA drives in question, which may max at 3, 6 or 3.2 16 Gbit/s (1969 MB/s). Ergo, a 10GB FCoE SAN that's running OBR10 or Raid6 with a large SSD/RAM cache could transfer larger files faster than DAS using SATA 3 which maxes out at 6GBit. The problem, obviously, is contention so you might never see those max speeds on the SAN in the real world production environment.
I guess it all depends on how you're going to use your DAS, and if it's just a machine with a single drive, that screams workstation (that you don't care about the data or uptime is implied by the lack of an array). If you want to make a faster workstation, get a pair of SSDs and run them in RAID0.
@DustinB3403 said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey said in Why are local drives better:
@DustinB3403 said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey While I agree, I agree for different reasoning.
The array protection, isn't something that I think needs to be thought of in the traditional sense. I do agree that the local drive needs to be excluded from anything but secure services. So ransomware etc couldn't mess it up.
Maybe we're thinking on different levels. Are you only talking about DAS or is there something else here?
Yea.... haha
sorry for being so vague, just trying to get some ideas. Ignore raid. Its not an item to consider.
So, this is a workstation?
@DustinB3403 said in Why are local drives better:
@Grey While I agree, I agree for different reasoning.
The array protection, isn't something that I think needs to be thought of in the traditional sense. I do agree that the local drive needs to be excluded from anything but secure services. So ransomware etc couldn't mess it up.
Maybe we're thinking on different levels. Are you only talking about DAS or is there something else here?
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Roots was his first show. Not just his first screen appearance... literally his first audition!
LeVar Burton is freaking awesome.
It is known.
@scottalanmiller said in Why are local drives better:
Simplicity. Local drives have fewer things to fail between them and the system using them.
Conversely, a simple, single drive is a risk unless a RAID1 is involved, which should be a minimum for any server.
@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Apparently, it's cert day. EXIN finally released my digital cert for ITIL, which I passed in November.
That'd be a little upsetting, taking an entire quarter of a year.
Also, good for you.
They might have done it earlier. When I originally checked it, in early December, it wasn't ready. They claimed 6 weeks until completion, and I didn't think to check until today.
¯_(ツ)_/¯