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Before this you may remember Verizon getting sued several times over BS "Recovery fees".
And if the fee was BS - don't you think they should be sued?
They were forced to pay huge settlements at least one time I remember.
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It's just a really weird and actually a deceiving concept. You can tell it has U.S. written all over that concept.
In Japan, it is a 50/50 shot on whether or not they display the post tax price or not.
Holy hell - that has to be a nightmare for consumers.
Just like in the US, just not 50/50. In the US there is no labelling rule. So we assume no tax, except that's not true. On gas, for example, you always assume taxes have been added in. Cigarettes is like part added in and part not.
With telecom there are some "truth in billing" things that seem like they are just there to make everyone crazy.
Depending on which telecom lawyer you ask you will get a different answer about what to do.
Examples?
It means you have to break out all the taxes and fees the same way you break out sales tax. USF fees are optional to breakout but you have to charge exact amounts and label them as the exact amount you paid.
Before this you may remember Verizon getting sued several times over BS "Recovery fees".
But the whole thing costs so much to bill, track and report that its a nightmare.
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It's just a really weird and actually a deceiving concept. You can tell it has U.S. written all over that concept.
In Japan, it is a 50/50 shot on whether or not they display the post tax price or not.
Holy hell - that has to be a nightmare for consumers.
Just like in the US, just not 50/50. In the US there is no labelling rule. So we assume no tax, except that's not true. On gas, for example, you always assume taxes have been added in. Cigarettes is like part added in and part not.
With telecom there are some "truth in billing" things that seem like they are just there to make everyone crazy.
Depending on which telecom lawyer you ask you will get a different answer about what to do.
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Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...
The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).
I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.
It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.
Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.
Its basically no telecom tax, if you pay online with credit card there is just sales tax. If you buy a prepaid card in the store you pay sales tax then.
If you had a 3rd or 4th phone @Dashrender it really starts to get cheap lol. For my 8 year old I only paid $15 and he gets 6GB for his ipad, and texting. Calling he cant use until he gets an iPhone down the road.
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Was a signal group ever started? I am in
The Telegram app was just way better
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
TMo has that taxes rolled in thing I guess?
The only tax I seem to pay is sales tax. Hadn’t really looked before. It’s about 6%
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This might be a stupid question, but if I want to write applications as an independent developer for profit, should I develop UWP apps or standard desktop apps (Win32/.NET)? Which kind of apps are more popular?
I didn't find the right solution from the internet.
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If there is one thing you can count on its that Microsoft will @#$% you over everytime. Also you mentioned that you would like to make money so you may just want to ignore developing apps for Windows in general.
Web apps, Android/iOs apps would be a better way to go if you don't want the rug pulled out from under you every few years and if you intend to make $$$
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
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I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.
I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.
And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.
Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.
then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.
No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.
My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.
This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.
Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.
not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.
In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.
It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now
And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.
We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.
Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.
In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.
So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options
Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB
ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text
AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.
I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...
Me $40 for 6GB
Wife $35 for 6gb
Son $30 for 6GB
Daughter $25 for 6GB
Daughter $20 for 6GB
Son $15 for 6gBI get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
each gets 6 GB, currently we each use around 3 GB, recent maxes have been close to 4 GB. Great way to save $40/m
Would very much like to see Google Fi do something here, not sure that the data prices are avail.
Trying to find where someone dropped a line about google Fi towers in google Fiber cities...
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
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@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
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I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.
I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.
And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.
Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.
then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.
No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.
My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.
This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.
Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.
not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.
In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.
It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now
And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.
We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.
Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.
In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.
So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options
Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB
ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text
AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.
I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...
Me $40 for 6GB
Wife $35 for 6gb
Son $30 for 6GB
Daughter $25 for 6GB
Daughter $20 for 6GB
Son $15 for 6gBI get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.
you get roll over, even on prepaid?
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.
I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.
And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.
Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.
then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.
No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.
My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.
This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.
Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.
not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.
In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.
It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now
And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.
We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.
Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.
In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.
So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options
Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB
ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text
AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.
I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...
Me $40 for 6GB
Wife $35 for 6gb
Son $30 for 6GB
Daughter $25 for 6GB
Daughter $20 for 6GB
Son $15 for 6gBI get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.
you get roll over, even on prepaid?
Yup you get to carry over up to a full 6gb per line...
It’s a better deal than att retail service, and I notice the taxes and fees are never more than $3 or so per line.
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@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.
I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.
And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.
Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.
then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.
No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.
My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.
This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.
Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.
not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.
In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.
It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now
And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.
We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.
Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.
In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.
So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options
Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB
ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text
AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.
I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...
Me $40 for 6GB
Wife $35 for 6gb
Son $30 for 6GB
Daughter $25 for 6GB
Daughter $20 for 6GB
Son $15 for 6gB
I get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.
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As always, porn leads the way with early adoption technology.
Lol yeah I read through the article just to learn the premise of the pic...
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
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@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.
I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.
And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.
Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.
then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.
No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.
My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.
This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.
Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.
not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.
In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.
It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
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I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.
I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.
And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.
On all of these unlimited deals the actual result is that, during peak hours, they prioritize spectrum access differently. I have found with unlimited you can hit over 30GB and still be getting top speeds most of the day.
Its not a hard cap and throttle like the MVNO and smaller guys do. Sprint started with this type of unlimited deal and ATT/Verizon seems to have followed suit. I can not speak directly to TMo on that though.
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Why did your fees NOT go up? The customer clearly is getting more in 2012 than they were in 2000.
Kind of difficult when everyone else's fees were going down.
in your same area?
Brighthouse, Time Warner, Charter, Comcast, Spectrum - whatever you want to call them on a given day.
In the time this year since I left that business Spectrum has doubled everyone's speeds here for free to 100mb, and they have cut the pricing down to $50 or less, and made similar offers to businesses.
They are in the process of what you would call a limited asset purchase now, where we could have been bought last year.
I could tell all kinds of tales of yore about the WISP and DSL. Early 2000's was the most fun because you were actually bringing 10 and 15mb service out to people who only had dial up options. It really hasn't been fun or profitable for a while. I don't exactly consider any ISP I have been in to be a "greedy big company".
I am happy to have moved on and have found mid-market enterprise voice to be a pretty good market. I plan on sticking to this for a long time.
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Why did your fees NOT go up? The customer clearly is getting more in 2012 than they were in 2000.
Kind of difficult when everyone else's fees were going down.
Was just one I saw today.
Does Tmo and Netflix concern you?
Or the possibility of Verison and Netflix?
Or AT&T and free DirecTV
all things that are going on now, and dont count against your bandwidth?
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Or if Netflix was to be able to afford it, they would have to raise their prices and pass the cost onto the customers - the same customers we are claiming can't afford it. Clearly that's not possible.
So the bottom line is that the ISPs don't have a working business model. And there is only one group at potential fault for that, the ISPs.
So while Verizon is big enough to force Netflix to pay I am not. BUT.... reading NN more carefully the intention was to use TITLE II to set zero tier rates on a case by case basis.
So this is the reason I changed my mind yesterday. They could make my rate zero on an interconnect. Now I can compete and stay in business.
They just werent sure how they were going to do it, and made some statements about how they would make their mind up as they went. Making the actual law more of a starting point that didnt change much in the beginning.
What? You changed your mind because you could use Title II to your advantage to steal from Verizon, assuming the FCC made you a zero rate on the interconnect? or did I completely misread that?
Sounds like you are misreading it.
Also, not involved in any ISP anymore.
In short I will see this
I agree with Net Neutrality. It was headed in the right direction.
It wasnt the wild west before this in 2015 there were many protections in place
The complaints about throttling P2P and netflix were not even solved by the original legislation
Overall, I agree NN should have stayed. I also have found some questionable statements from Pai.
And is no one up in arms about all the Zero Rating stuff going on. Free Hulu with Sprint and so on?
For googling purposes and media discussion "Zero Rating"
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Or if Netflix was to be able to afford it, they would have to raise their prices and pass the cost onto the customers - the same customers we are claiming can't afford it. Clearly that's not possible.
So the bottom line is that the ISPs don't have a working business model. And there is only one group at potential fault for that, the ISPs.
So while Verizon is big enough to force Netflix to pay I am not. BUT.... reading NN more carefully the intention was to use TITLE II to set zero tier rates on a case by case basis.
So this is the reason I changed my mind yesterday. They could make my rate zero on an interconnect. Now I can compete and stay in business.
There should be no competition, that's why the government alone should control the Internet connections.
Well until then, we can agree that I wish the law was still in place.
With Pai I am actually getting fucked if I am an ISP until he does something specific to change this. I was fucked the whole time mind you, but seemed like with NN there was hope and a potential future that I would get assistance.
If we just had equal packets, and that was that - we all get what we pay for, the system would be simple.
Well, we do. Thats why I owe the big guys so much more at the end of the month.
Maybe you are talking about zero tier though. And that is what I can see the big guys hating. They love to fight out interconnect fees with each other. And the FCC could have stopped this with them. So why did any particular carrier actually fight to keep NN?