Posts made by adam.ierymenko

Do an update. We released new binary builds for Linux that should address this.

Since you folks have been interested in ZeroTier we've decided to announce our new hardware product here:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/zerotier-edge-open-source-enterprise-vpn-sd-wan/x/17167082#/

It's a layer 2 bridge SD-WAN appliance powered by ZeroTier. We've just launched a pre-order campaign for it and we haven't announced it more generally yet. We'd like to announce it to customers and users first. (Feel free to pass it around if you'd like.)

Forgot to mention... not only is the Windows installer the product of a lot of work but we are reluctant to touch it. Every single time we touch it we get problem reports since every Windows machine is a special snowflake with special requirements.

The whole Windows installer subsystem should be burned. Then the ashes should be mixed with copious amounts of water and injected into a deep subsurface well in a geographically stable region to ensure that they remain sequestered for thousands of years and do not harm future civilizations. Unfortunately MS would have to do this.

Personally I suspect that Chocolatey will die now that Windows has the Linux subsystem for developers.

You're partly right. We get requests to support literally dozens of platforms and package managers, and Chocolatey is making things hard. It's also not something we get a lot of requests for, so it gets bumped to the back of the line behind... too many targets to list. We've considered just pulling the package.

The ZeroTIer Windows installer as it stands was not easy to build at all. It involved the use of a $1000+ product called Advanced Installer (the only installer maker that even came close to our needs) combined with weeks of developer time to put together a package. The MSI is designed to install on both 32 and 64 bit machines and to handle a huge variety of edge cases and Windows "spins."

We can look into silent installing drivers but as with absolutely everything else about Windows packaging I'm sure it's painful. Windows is by a huge margin the most painful platform to build an installer for unless your app is trivial. (Debian based Linux comes in second.)

Also IRC isn't gone. The IRC FreeNode #zerotier channel is linked to that chat system's #general channel bidirectionally by a bot.

No we are not dead. Quite the opposite. We're growing a lot and have been very busy.

(1) We did finally push a Chocolatey package update but it got kicked back. We're going to have to institute more of a process for maintaining our vast surface area of ports and packages. It's horribly annoying since every package manager and package repository has its own unique way of being a pain in the you-know-what.

(2) Windows auto-updates as of 1.2.0. 1.2.6 will be coming pretty soon.

(3) Yes we did rev our community system yet again. We're trying to iterate toward something as low-friction and interactive as possible.

We're about to push binaries for 1.2.4 which is a minor bug fix and performance improvement update. We'll be updating Chocolatey for that, or at least we'll attempt it. (Their auto-validator chokes on our package and requires manual intervention.)

https://chocolatey.org/packages/zerotier-one/1.1.14

Seems approved.

https://chocolatey.org/packages/zerotier-one/1.1.12

I also just learned that this works:

msiexec /i https://download.zerotier.com/dist/ZeroTierOne.msi

Didn't know msiexec could do that.

We're revamping our web site and will have one-liner installs for most platforms.

Chocolatey package in review... will post after approval and further testing.

Hmm... will have to look at the banner still being there. Probably a web UI bug. If you are running 1.1.6 or newer (current is 1.1.12) then ignore it.

Looks like Chocolatey packaging is easy. Coming soon.

It reminds me more of Homebrew (Mac) than yum.

Yeah, I think getting this into there is a good idea. We can probably just wrap our MSI.

We also probably want to make our CLI easier to use on Windows. Right now it's a PITA to invoke it. We're working on a much better CLI too.

Yeah Chocolatey looks cool but the site looks like it was designed in the 2000s! So not hipster enough for us.

Will check that out... thanks!

The real problem is that none of us use Windows for our primary environment. We use Macs for desktop and Linux for servers/cloud, so that's where the love goes. But the entire SMB and corporate world uses Windows so we do need to spend more time on that platform.

Actually I'm heading over to their site to see what kind of auto-update stuff they have. I know they have something. If it's included we might start using it.

The most expensive piece of software ZeroTier, Inc. has ever purchased is Advanced Installer, a Windows installer builder. We needed the full enterprise version. Worth every penny.

Agreed. Linux is fragmented into many distributions and it's still easier.