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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      if i block those website by using IP subnet, this may not be efficient because IP subnets used by those website are changing and big in number

      Correct, that does not work either. Proxies are, quite honestly, the only reliable method of web filtering.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN
        last edited by

        the problem is proxy server can easily bypassed by portable application like firefox, this is the problem

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          the problem is proxy server can easily bypassed by portable application like firefox, this is the problem

          That's because it isn't completely set up. It is just an optional proxy. That's why the proxy plus firewall is the complete setup, a proxy is useless all by itself. The firewall ensures that you cannot bypass the proxy by blocking all web traffic that doesn't originate from the proxy. A correctly setup proxy cannot be bypassed. Every Fortune 1000 uses proxy servers and keeps them from being bypassed.

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN
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            pfSense is firewall and proxy,
            so what will be the role of the firewall in this scenario, he will block what exactly ???

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              pfSense is firewall and proxy,
              so what will be the role of the firewall in this scenario, he will block what exactly ???

              It blocks all outbound Port 80 and Port 443 except for for the proxy server. That way ALL web traffic has to go through the proxy, no matter what. You can bypass the proxy still, but there is nowhere to go because the web only exists through the proxy server.

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
                last edited by

                firewall rules can block traffic based on IPs, not URLs

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  aahh i see what you mean Mr Scott, i should block all traffic except for outbound traffic going to my proxy server

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    firewall rules can block traffic based on IPs, not URLs

                    And by ports, most importantly.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                      last edited by

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      aahh i see what you mean Mr Scott, i should block all traffic except for outbound traffic going to my proxy server

                      Exactly. That takes care of the general networking workaround. Now the proxy is in control of traffic and can determine where people can go.

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
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                        i just test it right now, but it has affected other ports like outlook, now i cannot sent and receive mails,

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                          last edited by

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          i just test it right now, but it has affected other ports like outlook, now i cannot sent and receive mails,

                          Only block 80/443 for now. The proxy doesn't handle other protocols.

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
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                            yes, i will open all ports except 80 and 443 for all destination, and for those 2 ports i should forward them only to the proxy IP

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN
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                              yes, now i understand your wise sentence, proxy by itself cannot do the job except with the collaboration of the firewall rules

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                yes, i will open all ports except 80 and 443 for all destination, and for those 2 ports i should forward them only to the proxy IP

                                Exactly.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  yes, now i understand your wise sentence, proxy by itself cannot do the job except with the collaboration of the firewall rules

                                  🙂 Yes, one for the networking portion and one for the web portion.

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                                  • IT-ADMINI
                                    IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    yes you are right, thank you very much for your help and willingness to share your knowledge

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                      last edited by

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      yes you are right, thank you very much for your help and willingness to share your knowledge

                                      Glad to help 🙂

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                                      • IT-ADMINI
                                        IT-ADMIN
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                                        by doing this portable browser cannot access the web unless they enter proxy setting (of the proxy), so they will be obliged to pass through the proxy, otherwise they cannot access the web

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          by doing this portable browser cannot access the web unless they enter proxy setting (of the proxy), so they will be obliged to pass through the proxy, otherwise they cannot access the web

                                          Correct

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN
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                                            and if they don't know my proxy setting they will contact me so that i will know who try to bypass the company policies and then i will make for them a good report with the manager hhhhhh

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