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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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      @aaronstuder said:

      I guess I could install Xen on top of Ubuntu?

      Ubuntu will allow a Xen install, but it will move Xen to be what runs on the bare metal. So they may limit you. These often do by controlling the kernel.

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        Alex Sage
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        I want to be able to have a bunch of 512MB CentOS7 servers.....

        Can anyone think of a good way to do that?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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          @aaronstuder said:

          I want to be able to have a bunch of 512MB CentOS7 servers.....

          Can anyone think of a good way to do that?

          A bunch? Like how many? Ten, one hundred? What's the end goal? What storage and CPU do you want or need?

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            Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller I use very little CPU or Harddrive Space. What I need is RAM 🙂

            I was thinking about 15 - 20 VMs

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              Alex Sage
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              Basically a hosted home lab

              Basic Web Server
              OwnCloud
              Jumpbox

              Etc

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                Alex Sage
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                Hmmmm...

                https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                  last edited by

                  @aaronstuder said:

                  Basically a hosted home lab

                  Basic Web Server
                  OwnCloud
                  Jumpbox

                  Etc

                  Well. Let's use 20VMs. If you are talking $5 instances, that's going to be $100/mo. You could buy a small server and go to colo for that price.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    For cost effective, a box at home is the best, obviously.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      If you don't want VMs, containers are lighter and faster. So pretty much any system where you can run LXC will do nicely.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        If you don't want VMs, containers are lighter and faster. So pretty much any system where you can run LXC will do nicely.

                        Yup. Exactly what I do on Vultr, and I have a VM at home for LXC. XO runs in LXC and when a new version comes out, Ansible clones it and updates it for me but leaves the old container. I don't have to do any work at all. Then if a bug happens like the recent backup to NFS bug, I just use the old container.

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                          Alex Sage
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                          LXC or LXD?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                            @aaronstuder said:

                            LXC or LXD?

                            LXD is an LXC interface.

                            https://linuxcontainers.org/

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                              Alex Sage
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                              With containers I might not need nearly as much RAM 🙂

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @aaronstuder said:

                                LXC or LXD?

                                LXD is an LXC interface.

                                https://linuxcontainers.org/

                                Ubuntu is working on live migration with LXD. That will be awesome.

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                                  Alex Sage @stacksofplates
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                                  That will be awesome! How do you backup containers?

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                                    stacksofplates @Alex Sage
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                                    @aaronstuder said:

                                    That will be awesome! How do you backup containers?

                                    Just tar the container folder. You can also do file level backups of the containers. LXC by default stores everything in /var/lib/lxc/ so if you want to restore a file to container1 you could just cp it back to /var/lib/lxc/container1/root/pathtofolder/

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                                      Alex Sage @stacksofplates
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                                      @johnhooks Can I do that with the containers running?

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                                        Alex Sage
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                                        Can I run different Distros in containers or just the same as the host?

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @Alex Sage
                                          last edited by

                                          @aaronstuder said:

                                          @johnhooks Can I do that with the containers running?

                                          Which file level restore or using tar?

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @Alex Sage
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                                            @aaronstuder said:

                                            Can I run different Distros in containers or just the same as the host?

                                            You can run different distros. But I think you need to match systemd and init between host and container though.

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