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    • mlnews
      mlnews last edited by

      VMware, a division of EMC, a division itself of Dell, has laid off the entire desktop / type 2 virtualization teams that make their Workstation and Fusion products. Does this mean the end of the products or, as speculation has it, moving development to China?

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/vmware_fusion_and_workstation_development_team_fired/

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      • Kelly
        Kelly @mlnews last edited by

        @mlnews said:

        VMware, a division of EMC, a division itself of Dell, has laid off the entire desktop / type 2 virtualization teams that make their Workstation and Fusion products. Does this mean the end of the products or, as speculation has it, moving development to China?

        http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/vmware_fusion_and_workstation_development_team_fired/

        Moving the dev to China could affect government adoption. Now we just need a type 2 hypervisor that integrates tightly with XS.

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          Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.

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          • Kelly
            Kelly @StrongBad last edited by

            @StrongBad said:

            Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.

            We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.

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            • Deleted74295
              Deleted74295 Banned last edited by

              Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.

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              • Kelly
                Kelly @Deleted74295 last edited by

                @Breffni-Potter said:

                Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.

                I would think that the average user of the above would be smarter than your average bear, and a bit more connected to IT related news. Perhpas not.

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                • StrongBad
                  StrongBad @Kelly last edited by

                  @Kelly said:

                  @StrongBad said:

                  Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.

                  We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.

                  What do you use them for?

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                  • scottalanmiller
                    scottalanmiller @Deleted74295 last edited by

                    @Breffni-Potter said:

                    Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.

                    People are already noticing. My little slice of the world sees Vmware adoption in the negatives. Seems that they are near a tipping point.

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                    • Deleted74295
                      Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                      Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.

                      People are already noticing. My little slice of the world sees Vmware adoption in the negatives. Seems that they are near a tipping point.

                      I still think they won't

                      I'm basing this on the fact that Lenovo can get away with what it does and still see blind adoption.

                      VMware have not done anything that stupid or dangerous, so there'll be no reason for their group to jump ship.

                      Well...Unless the communist back door argument gets made.

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                      • Kelly
                        Kelly @StrongBad last edited by

                        @StrongBad said:

                        @Kelly said:

                        @StrongBad said:

                        Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.

                        We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.

                        What do you use them for?

                        Our scientists run computations locally using VMs.

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                        • scottalanmiller
                          scottalanmiller @Deleted74295 last edited by

                          @Breffni-Potter said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Breffni-Potter said:

                          Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.

                          People are already noticing. My little slice of the world sees Vmware adoption in the negatives. Seems that they are near a tipping point.

                          I still think they won't

                          I'm basing this on the fact that Lenovo can get away with what it does and still see blind adoption.

                          VMware have not done anything that stupid or dangerous, so there'll be no reason for their group to jump ship.

                          Well...Unless the communist back door argument gets made.

                          It's a valid point. But, and I could easily be wrong, I feel like hypervisor selection is slightly more rigorous than desktop selection.

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                          • StrongBad
                            StrongBad @Kelly last edited by

                            @Kelly said:

                            @StrongBad said:

                            @Kelly said:

                            @StrongBad said:

                            Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.

                            We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.

                            What do you use them for?

                            Our scientists run computations locally using VMs.

                            And the upstream agencies would dictate the available hypervisor options?

                            is this like Linux computation nodes running on Windows desktops?

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                            • Dashrender
                              Dashrender @Kelly last edited by

                              @Kelly said:

                              @StrongBad said:

                              Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.

                              We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box),

                              Might I ask - Why?

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                              • Kelly
                                Kelly @Dashrender last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @Kelly said:

                                @StrongBad said:

                                Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.

                                We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box),

                                Might I ask - Why?

                                Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

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                                • Kelly
                                  Kelly @StrongBad last edited by

                                  @StrongBad said:

                                  @Kelly said:

                                  @StrongBad said:

                                  @Kelly said:

                                  @StrongBad said:

                                  Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.

                                  We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.

                                  What do you use them for?

                                  Our scientists run computations locally using VMs.

                                  And the upstream agencies would dictate the available hypervisor options?

                                  is this like Linux computation nodes running on Windows desktops?

                                  Upstream can dictate what they will allow their data to sit on or they won't give us their data. We've already had one agency tell us that we cannot use any Lenovo hardware in support of their systems.

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                                  • scottalanmiller
                                    scottalanmiller @Kelly last edited by

                                    @Kelly said:

                                    Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

                                    There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

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                                    • Kelly
                                      Kelly @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Kelly said:

                                      Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

                                      There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

                                      They are running the computations locally on their laptop.

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                                        scottalanmiller @Kelly last edited by

                                        @Kelly said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Kelly said:

                                        Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

                                        There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

                                        They are running the computations locally on their laptop.

                                        Can't they run them on the base OS?

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                                        • Kelly
                                          Kelly @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Kelly said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Kelly said:

                                          Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

                                          There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

                                          They are running the computations locally on their laptop.

                                          Can't they run them on the base OS?

                                          The tools they need run much better in Linux, and these are all MBPs.

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