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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      For example, we don't know...

      • Which one of them had better grades.
      • Which one had more extra curricular activities.
      • Which one is "about to turn 18" and which one "just turned 17."
      • Which one has a car and a driver's license.
      • Which one expressed a desire for a long term pizza shop career.
      • Which one had limited hours of availability and which one did not have those limitations.
      • Which one offered to do extra work or disgusting jobs or menial ones while the other refursed.
      • Which one barely passed the interview and which one shone.
      • Which one has applied before or which one applied earlier, maybe even a month or two earlier.
      • Which one has pizza making experience or other customer service.
      • Which one follows instructions well?
      • Which one answered interview questions well?
      • Which one arrived on time or how they were dressed?

      And I could go on all day. Think about all of the things that we say about interviewing. Get your resume in order, arrive early, how to answer questions, how to present yourself, what things to know, etc. Unless you are saying that all interview and background information is totally pointless and that all hiring should be distilled down to age, experience (probably zero in this case) and hire date, then we have no bases for feeling that they should have been paid the same.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

        This reminds me of Jennifer Lawrence talking about getting paid grossly less than her peers. What did she say? I don't blame them it's my fault for not negotiating more.

        Exactly. A big part of the problem is that girls are often taught to give in and boys are taught to negotiate from day one. But that's not a problem with jobs, it's a problem with education, society and individuals allowing it to happen. Girls are aware that this problem exists and know that they have to challenge themselves to negotiate the same way that boys do. We don't *know" that this is what happened here and given the firing we can assume that it is not, but had they not been fired, there would be no grounds for the conversation.

        A lot of people run into that (myself included). I realized after I was hired I could have asked for 10k more than I did. You live and you learn. I have trouble realizing my value. Apparently it was very obvious to them. Learning experience.

        I learned this by... taking tons of awful jobs from ages 16-23. Constantly interviewing and job changing and working more than one job at a time teaches you that stuff quickly.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Here is a personal example....

          I once walked into a Burger King in Geneseo, NY and asked for a part time cashier's job. They knew that I had some experience making pizza from Pizza Hut and that I did not get fired there, so I was in good shape to pick up some hours. I was a pretty safe hire. I had cashier experience in food service (and dish washing and some other things.) I was like 19, so about the same age as other cashiers applying at Burger King.

          The interview was pretty much a joke because they knew my background enough that there was no way I wasn't a decent bet for a cashiering job, especially as I could work any shift, was willing to and only needed two full shifts a week or four halves. I was flexible.

          I got to orientation, did my first day and was asked to stay late. Manager pulled me aside and offered me the regional bulldog manager position (basically a senior shift manager but one for a region rather than a single store.) I was the same age or younger than most of the staff, I started the same day as a lot of people and my work history was not all that impressive (especially what little bit I put on my BK application.) But between the interview and the orientation, I got like a 50% pay increase. Why? Because I acted different, spoke differently, had different goals, had different knowledge. The interview matters.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22
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            So Roach milk is about to become a harvested superfood in the US. Milk that roaches feed their young. Thoughts?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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              @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

              So Roach milk is about to become a harvested superfood in the US. Milk that roaches feed their young. Thoughts?

              I'll get back to you as soon as I'm done vomiting.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                So Roach milk is about to become a harvested superfood in the US. Milk that roaches feed their young. Thoughts?

                I'll get back to you as soon as I'm done vomiting.

                I expect you to be awhile.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  So Roach milk is about to become a harvested superfood in the US. Milk that roaches feed their young. Thoughts?

                  Are you sure it is harvested? CNET suggested a few weeks ago that it is just chemicals based on what roaches use, not harvest but synthesized in a lab.

                  http://www.cnet.com/news/mmm-cockroach-milk-could-be-a-nutritious-superfood-for-people/

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/26/the-case-for-cockroach-milk-its-the-most-caloric-protein-on-earth-scientists-say/

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      So Roach milk is about to become a harvested superfood in the US. Milk that roaches feed their young. Thoughts?

                      Are you sure it is harvested? CNET suggested a few weeks ago that it is just chemicals based on what roaches use, not harvest but synthesized in a lab.

                      http://www.cnet.com/news/mmm-cockroach-milk-could-be-a-nutritious-superfood-for-people/

                      I think they accumulate it from a bunch of roaches and then 'grow it' in a lab. Still.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @wirestyle22
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                        @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        So Roach milk is about to become a harvested superfood in the US. Milk that roaches feed their young. Thoughts?

                        Are you sure it is harvested? CNET suggested a few weeks ago that it is just chemicals based on what roaches use, not harvest but synthesized in a lab.

                        http://www.cnet.com/news/mmm-cockroach-milk-could-be-a-nutritious-superfood-for-people/

                        I think they accumulate it from a bunch of roaches and then 'grow it' in a lab. Still.

                        face turns green ... Looks up to see previous posts... strats looking for bucket

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                        • momurdaM
                          momurda
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                          I am now a vegetarian

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                          • RojoLocoR
                            RojoLoco @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            So Roach milk is about to become a harvested superfood in the US. Milk that roaches feed their young. Thoughts?

                            Are you sure it is harvested? CNET suggested a few weeks ago that it is just chemicals based on what roaches use, not harvest but synthesized in a lab.

                            http://www.cnet.com/news/mmm-cockroach-milk-could-be-a-nutritious-superfood-for-people/

                            I think they accumulate it from a bunch of roaches and then 'grow it' in a lab. Still.

                            Roach squeezins.... mmm mmm disgusting!

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                            • Reid CooperR
                              Reid Cooper
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                              Rockin' Roach BItes, Banana Flavoured, now at Trader Joe's

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                              • RojoLocoR
                                RojoLoco
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                                If roach milk takes off, someone will bitch and moan until there is a vegan, gluten-free roach milk substitute. And people wonder why I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                                  @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  If roach milk takes off, someone will bitch and moan until there is a vegan, gluten-free roach milk substitute. And people wonder why I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

                                  if it is synthesized, it will be vegan!

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @RojoLoco
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                                    @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    If roach milk takes off, someone will bitch and moan until there is a vegan, gluten-free roach milk substitute. And people wonder why I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

                                    ^ This

                                    You left out Soy Roach Milk, Almond Roach Milk, 1%, 2%, and Skim Roach milk.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Soon they will add it into pot and it will be roach roaches.

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                                      • RojoLocoR
                                        RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        If roach milk takes off, someone will bitch and moan until there is a vegan, gluten-free roach milk substitute. And people wonder why I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

                                        if it is synthesized, it will be vegan!

                                        Well, if they can effectively synthesize something that comes from an animal, what the hell is up with all other vegan food nonsense? Ever had soy cheese? That stuff will make you want to cry.

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                                        • tonyshowoffT
                                          tonyshowoff @RojoLoco
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                                          @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          If roach milk takes off, someone will bitch and moan until there is a vegan, gluten-free roach milk substitute. And people wonder why I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

                                          if it is synthesized, it will be vegan!

                                          Well, if they can effectively synthesize something that comes from an animal, what the hell is up with all other vegan food nonsense? Ever had soy cheese? That stuff will make you want to cry.

                                          Speaking of food synthesising, unless it is molecularly identical to the real thing (be it meat or vegetable) then it's basically crappy candy made by a computer. That whole "meat grown in a lab" thing, a lot of the early, early prototypes going on now even have carbs, meat doesn't have carbs, just pressing it into the shape of meat and having it taste similar, isn't good enough, at least not for me.

                                          I'm willing to eat fake animals so long as my body can't tell the difference, and the only way that's truly possible is if the delicious atoms within are the same, not pumped with sugar and taste-o-flaven to try to trick me.

                                          On top of all that, speaking of soy, for people who often complain about "processed foods" being unhealthy, soy is extremely processed, and almond milk doesn't come from squeezing almonds. There's nothing inherently bad about processing food, I've never understood this at all. Sure, a lot of processed foods are bad, such as pop tarts, but a lot can be good, it depends on what's in it, not the process by which it is made, that's just asinine.

                                          Then again, this comes from people who claim food makers add salt and sugar to make it addictive, considering our bodies naturally crave it without introduction to it (like heroin), that's equally a stupid thing to say. People like it because it's good, and even though too much sugar will definitely kill you over the long term, that doesn't mean people need to add it to make it "addictive," as if when people weren't eating salty/sugary foods they were eating $50 raw organic vegan super food meals, not just korn with the occasional bird and butter.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            This is a crystal, though, not a meat substitute.

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