Horrible Customer Service
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@scottalanmiller said:
For web hosting, if it is for business purposes, I highly recommend enterprise hosts. No matter how nice a little, nobody company is, the risks are just too high. Your website is too important. I don't recommend hosting with NTG, even though I trust us not to do dumb things. Better to hire us to manage a website hosted by a big, enterprise host than to have us host it ourselves. We will, because some people need that, but it's not recommended.
Who would be some enterprise hosts that you recommend? I am definitely done with Hudson Valley Host
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@IRJ said:
Who would be some enterprise hosts that you recommend? I am definitely done with Hudson Valley Host
I am NO expert here. But I've heard good things about Blue Host, A Small Orange, MediaTemple, etc. And Rackspace, of course, but they are like $300/mo to start. So probably not what you are interested in.
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@IRJ said:
Why don't you look at a bigger one.. Rackspace, Dreamhost, Hostgator, JustHost are the usually ones if you are only doing webhosting. Rackspace will be expensive though.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Why don't you look at a bigger one.. Rackspace, Dreamhost, Hostgator, JustHost are the usually ones if you are only doing webhosting. Rackspace will be expensive though.
DreamHost was in my mind but I could not remember the name.
Haven't heard of people using HostGator, do you have direct feedback on them?
Don't know JustHost.
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@IRJ said:
I had a VPS hosted at the same place as my website. I didn't end up using the VPS, and ended up cancelling it last year. I found out today that the recurring payment was still active on this. Even though, I canceled the VPS months ago. So I contacted PayPal and explained that to them. They refunded me the $5.
I found out that I had a total of $15 I paid for nothing so I was going to contact my host and just have them apply that towards my hosting. They get the chargeback for $5 and suspended my Web Hosting IMMEDIATELY. My bill wasn't even due until the 21st of the month for webhosting.
To sum everything up, they were getting an extra $5 a month for nothing. I got a refund for that and then they canceled my website which was already paid up until the 21st.
See they owe me $10 since I canceled my service in december
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NTG used to use Rackspace but got better performance and features at a fraction of the cost self-hosting. So that's what we have done for years. We host a lot of sites and apps, so it makes a bit of sense for us. And we own a rather substantial infrastructure.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
Why don't you look at a bigger one.. Rackspace, Dreamhost, Hostgator, JustHost are the usually ones if you are only doing webhosting. Rackspace will be expensive though.
DreamHost was in my mind but I could not remember the name.
Haven't heard of people using HostGator, do you have direct feedback on them?
Don't know JustHost.
I used to use HostGator for years. For the companies I worked for it's been either Dreamhost or JustHost.. Dreamhost being much better though.
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So it sounds like DreamHost would be your "go to" standard web hosting choice?
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I gotta have CPanel hosting.
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@IRJ said:
I gotta have CPanel hosting.
Dreamhost uses a custom control panel that offers everything cpanel does and works fine. Cpanel is crazy expensive, so that may be why some hosts lack in support that have it
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I've never seen enterprise hosting using cPanel. I thought that that was almost exclusively used by little, nobody providers who couldn't make their own interface. cPanel to me is the web hosting equivalent of the little "kid in his parents' basement" ISPs of the early 1990s. You know, the sixteen year olds who bought a single T1 and a bunch of modems and called themselves an ISP and went down all the time and never worked. cPanel is that 2001 webhosting equivalent. So people with one desktop and a fast home connection can run their own "enterprise looking" web host without having to know how to actually do it.
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Not that I see that many hosts, but I know that Rackspace and MediaTemple don't use cPanel either. Do any big players use it? Seems that it would make it not cost effective at large scale once you have adequate staff.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
I gotta have CPanel hosting.
Why is that? What does CPanel offer?
I happen to like the interface and there are alot of tutorials on how to do different things
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Godaddy uses Cpanel on linux or Plesk for windows and they are just about the worst host out there.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Godaddy uses Cpanel on linux or Plesk for windows and they are just about the worst host out there.
Makes sense
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@IRJ said:
I happen to like the interface and there are alot of tutorials on how to do different things
It's a nice interface. But I think most of the big hosts are better.
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@IRJ said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
I gotta have CPanel hosting.
Why is that? What does CPanel offer?
I happen to like the interface and there are alot of tutorials on how to do different things
What do you need to do that's that complicated? web hosting is pretty trivial. even with no panel, you only need to know a minimal ammount of commands and sql.
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I've always wondered this myself. Since I do most of my hosting via SSH to Linux and there is pretty much nothing to be done, I'm curious what benefits cPanel brings. Mostly you just copy files and set up new databases, right?
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I have heard good things about DreamHost. They seem like a good place to look.
For us we need special hosting that most of those cannot offer. So we look at hosts like Heroku, Elastic Beanstalk, Joyent and OpenShift.
