Facbeook Caught Racially Discriminating Again Banning Some Native Americans
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This has been a good discussion! As a result I think I will be me deleting my FB account shortly.
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@MattSpeller said:
This has been a good discussion! As a result I think I will be me deleting my FB account shortly.
Definitely makes me unhappy to have one. This would have been SO trivial for them to fix. But instead, they are willing to face a firestorm of bad press rather than let a few people be manually verified in order to maintain their own corporate policy. At this point they are making far more effort to block than to allow!
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I can't fathom why they would not just let it go. It takes some serious passion to be willing to be go through this just to block a small number of people. How this can be worth it I just can't imagine. And it completely undermines their previous claims that the need people to use real names. Their recent battle with one community was that they would not allow them to use fake names even when it was needed to protect them from bullying and even real life attacks. Now, when people just want to work within FB's official policy, they do the opposite and violate their own policy.
They seem to be establishing a trend of hurting small groups and changing the interpretation of their policy to let them do whatever they want to do.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
Society is teaching us to quickly point out racism whenever its convenient. Its really stupid and it actually creates racism where there was none intended.
I agree, but I think it is also caused by reality. Racism is very strong in the US, insanely so, and we can't defend overtly racists activity by stating that we are too sensitive to it. Someone here is being harmed, maybe at first by accident but now intentionally, because of their race. I don't see any way where race isn't a factor here.
The more the media points out racism, the worse racism will become. It is impossible for it to improve when its constantly being reported.
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I'm very hesitant to delete mine, I think I've decided to kill the existing one and create a new one. I should add that this real name business is not my only reason - I find the whole company / business model creepy as all get out.
As to why they're stuck on it, I don't know either. Seems atrocious that no one can solve this!
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@IRJ said:
The more the media points out racism, the worse racism will become. It is impossible for it to improve when its constantly being reported.
Is that really true? Does ignoring it make it go away but pointing it out not? In some ways I see what you are saying, but what is the alternative? How does pointing out when someone is behaving badly (maybe illegally) make it more likely to happen than simply allowing them to do so?
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@MattSpeller said:
As to why they're stuck on it, I don't know either. Seems atrocious that no one can solve this!
You mean that no one will solve this. Plenty of simple solutions have been proposed. The EFF is fighting them to drop the policy completely on safety grounds.
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@IRJ said:
The more the media points out racism, the worse racism will become. It is impossible for it to improve when its constantly being reported.
I disagree completely for a few reasons. History shows us that by illuminating blatantly stupid ideas not only does social pressure dissolve it rapidly but you also keep those bad ideas in the public eye. Example: the last thing I want to see is the WBC be unable to post dumb shit online. I want to know what they're doing, what they think, how they recruit, etc. All the better to ridicule them, point out their errors and ensure they don't retreat and fester in a self created, self sustaining mindless echo chamber.
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If everything bad was also illegal, maybe it would be different. But many bad things only get changed through social pressure, since they are legal or legal-ish and benefit someone in a position to enact policy.
