Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?
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Would any micro form factor pc work? While I would never suggested Lenovo,.. their micro is about that size with 65w power supply... I'd go Dell or ANYONE else over Lenovo!
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@travisdh1 said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
The NUCs are just a pain. Too many warranty claims (like 8-10% of new units out of the ~150 I deployed over 2 years). To make matters even harder, the OEM only warranties RAM/storage. So you have two different companies you have to deal with warranty repair/replace issues with.
That's a lot. Intel usually know what they're doing when designing PCs.
I've never had to RMA any of them but I've not deployed as many as you have.
Is it just one kind of failure or is it different?
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@gjacobse said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
Would any micro form factor pc work? While I would never suggested Lenovo,.. their micro is about that size with 65w power supply... I'd go Dell or ANYONE else over Lenovo!
You have to look carefully at the specific CPU chosen when buying micro form factor PCs.
There are two main series of CPUs in use in the MFF:
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U-series CPUs which are what you see in laptops. Ultra low power. Low base frequency, lower amount of cores.
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T-series CPUs which you won't see in laptops because they are more powerful and use more power. Higher base frequency and more cores.
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@Pete-S said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@travisdh1 said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
The NUCs are just a pain. Too many warranty claims (like 8-10% of new units out of the ~150 I deployed over 2 years). To make matters even harder, the OEM only warranties RAM/storage. So you have two different companies you have to deal with warranty repair/replace issues with.
That's a lot. Intel usually know what they're doing when designing PCs.
I've never had to RMA any of them but I've not deployed as many as you have.
Is it just one kind of failure or is it different?
All types. Some storage/ram, some motherboard/cpu. What makes it such a pain is that Intel doesn't actually sell a complete system, which means playing vendor roulette whenever something does go wrong.
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@gjacobse said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
Would any micro form factor pc work? While I would never suggested Lenovo,.. their micro is about that size with 65w power supply... I'd go Dell or ANYONE else over Lenovo!
In theory, but Lenovo is typically 300% or more cost for the same thing. Lenovo we can get in country easily (they are about the only ones), but the cost is absurd. For these, in the US, prices are like $250!
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@Pete-S said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@gjacobse said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
Would any micro form factor pc work? While I would never suggested Lenovo,.. their micro is about that size with 65w power supply... I'd go Dell or ANYONE else over Lenovo!
You have to look carefully at the specific CPU chosen when buying micro form factor PCs.
There are two main series of CPUs in use in the MFF:
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U-series CPUs which are what you see in laptops. Ultra low power. Low base frequency, lower amount of cores.
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T-series CPUs which you won't see in laptops because they are more powerful and use more power. Higher base frequency and more cores.
We actually want the lower power options (laptop style) normally because power and heat are bigger issues than performance for us in nearly all cases.
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@scottalanmiller said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@Pete-S said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@gjacobse said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
Would any micro form factor pc work? While I would never suggested Lenovo,.. their micro is about that size with 65w power supply... I'd go Dell or ANYONE else over Lenovo!
You have to look carefully at the specific CPU chosen when buying micro form factor PCs.
There are two main series of CPUs in use in the MFF:
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U-series CPUs which are what you see in laptops. Ultra low power. Low base frequency, lower amount of cores.
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T-series CPUs which you won't see in laptops because they are more powerful and use more power. Higher base frequency and more cores.
We actually want the lower power options (laptop style) normally because power and heat are bigger issues than performance for us in nearly all cases.
Yeah I figured that.
The difference is not insignificant.A typical i5 would be:
- Desktop: 6-core @ 2.8Ghz, 65W TDP or more
- T-series: 6-core @ 2.5GHz, 45W TDP
- U-series: 4-core @ 1.7Ghz, 15W TDP
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@scottalanmiller said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@gjacobse said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
Would any micro form factor pc work? While I would never suggested Lenovo,.. their micro is about that size with 65w power supply... I'd go Dell or ANYONE else over Lenovo!
In theory, but Lenovo is typically 300% or more cost for the same thing. Lenovo we can get in country easily (they are about the only ones), but the cost is absurd. For these, in the US, prices are like $250!
I would never recommend Lenovo - to expensive for the hardware. But - it's what the office uses, I'd go HP before I went Lenovo...Unless it was free...
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@gjacobse said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@scottalanmiller said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@gjacobse said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
Would any micro form factor pc work? While I would never suggested Lenovo,.. their micro is about that size with 65w power supply... I'd go Dell or ANYONE else over Lenovo!
In theory, but Lenovo is typically 300% or more cost for the same thing. Lenovo we can get in country easily (they are about the only ones), but the cost is absurd. For these, in the US, prices are like $250!
I would never recommend Lenovo - to expensive for the hardware. But - it's what the office uses, I'd go HP before I went Lenovo...Unless it was free...
We've gotten two Lenovo's for free from Lenovo. Both were like $1800+ models. Both died really early. I'm literally diagnosing the dead hardware on one of them right now
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@scottalanmiller said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@gjacobse said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@scottalanmiller said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
@gjacobse said in Any Experience with BeeLink Mini PCs?:
Would any micro form factor pc work? While I would never suggested Lenovo,.. their micro is about that size with 65w power supply... I'd go Dell or ANYONE else over Lenovo!
In theory, but Lenovo is typically 300% or more cost for the same thing. Lenovo we can get in country easily (they are about the only ones), but the cost is absurd. For these, in the US, prices are like $250!
I would never recommend Lenovo - to expensive for the hardware. But - it's what the office uses, I'd go HP before I went Lenovo...Unless it was free...
We've gotten two Lenovo's for free from Lenovo. Both were like $1800+ models. Both died really early. I'm literally diagnosing the dead hardware on one of them right now
Dang- that’s not good. The free I refer to is the: it’s had its life and it’s heading to the trash/ recycling bin. Drive pulled and ‘scrapped’. So it’s already several years old….
The models we are using now are running about $2100 and up.
