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    • JustRobJ
      JustRob
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      Can you use chocolaty in a workgroup environment where there is a standard local user & common password?

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      • JustRobJ
        JustRob
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        Can you set the chocolatey program to use a specific network share for the repository, instead of connecting to the same website on every machine? This would be really useful on networks behind firewalls with no internet access or really poor internet connectivity.

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        • JustRobJ
          JustRob
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          Would it be possible to get Chocolatey to output it's results to a log file or somehow report on the progress / result of the update / install? It would be good to know for sure what programs got updated, or more importantly if any of the updates failed.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JustRob
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            @JustRob said:

            Can you use chocolaty in a workgroup environment where there is a standard local user & common password?

            Chocolatey doesn't use AD. It just needs local admin privileges. Any admin account can be used.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JustRob
              last edited by

              @JustRob said:

              Can you set the chocolatey program to use a specific network share for the repository, instead of connecting to the same website on every machine? This would be really useful on networks behind firewalls with no internet access or really poor internet connectivity.

              That's something that I would have to research. But I would be surprised if you can't. Although you can definitely use a proxy to do that.

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              • JustRobJ
                JustRob @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @JustRob said:

                Can you use chocolaty in a workgroup environment where there is a standard local user & common password?

                Chocolatey doesn't use AD. It just needs local admin privileges. Any admin account can be used.

                So do you have to be logged in with the same account on the machine you are pushing the updates from / running the remote command from (source) as is used on the machine you are updating (target)? Or can you specify in the update command on your source machine what credentials to use on the target machine(s)?

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                • JustRobJ
                  JustRob @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @JustRob said:

                  Can you set the chocolatey program to use a specific network share for the repository, instead of connecting to the same website on every machine? This would be really useful on networks behind firewalls with no internet access or really poor internet connectivity.

                  That's something that I would have to research. But I would be surprised if you can't. Although you can definitely use a proxy to do that.

                  You can set up a proxy to take requests for files from a website and pull them from a file share instead?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JustRob
                    last edited by

                    @JustRob said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @JustRob said:

                    Can you set the chocolatey program to use a specific network share for the repository, instead of connecting to the same website on every machine? This would be really useful on networks behind firewalls with no internet access or really poor internet connectivity.

                    That's something that I would have to research. But I would be surprised if you can't. Although you can definitely use a proxy to do that.

                    You can set up a proxy to take requests for files from a website and pull them from a file share instead?

                    The proxy itself would be the file share in that case. A proxy like squid would allow that, yes.

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                    • RoguePacketR
                      RoguePacket
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                      @scottalanmiller @dashrender @justrob Russinovich pushed out an update to psexec last week—

                      • http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897553

                      As usual, he doesn't say much about it (or even announce it). Assumption is it smooths interoperability up to Win8.1

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Awesome. I was using PsExec in 8.1 today without issue.

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                        • AmbarishrhA
                          Ambarishrh @Minion Queen
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                          @Minion-Queen Have you tried http://www.adminarsenal.com/pdq-deploy

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                          • Lost_Signal773L
                            Lost_Signal773 @Minion Queen
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                            @Minion-Queen N-Able has package management, but for SMB stuff Chocolatey is likely a better fit (N-Able can run a caching server which is nice in T1 hell holes).

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @Minion Queen
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                              So lets say I have a computer all setup with Java installed. Will chocolately see Java and update it when I do cup all or do I have to install Java with choc, then it will be able to update it?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                @Aaron-Studer said:

                                So lets say I have a computer all setup with Java installed. Will chocolately see Java and update it when I do cup all or do I have to install Java with choc, then it will be able to update it?

                                No. Chocolatey only managed software that comes from Chocolatey. It is not automation for arbitrary packages and it bypasses the Windows installer system completely.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Aaron-Studer said:

                                  So lets say I have a computer all setup with Java installed. Will chocolately see Java and update it when I do cup all or do I have to install Java with choc, then it will be able to update it?

                                  No. Chocolatey only managed software that comes from Chocolatey. It is not automation for arbitrary packages and it bypasses the Windows installer system completely.

                                  Well that stinks! That's a definite +1 in Ninite's bucket. I used the trial version of Ninite and wow - it's just awesome at how simple it is.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Ninite, likewise, can't manage software from Chocolatey.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Ninite, likewise, can't manage software from Chocolatey.

                                      Considering that it bypasses the windows installer - I'm not surprised, and bypassing the installer kinda makes me uncomfortable.

                                      Does this also mean that plain jane users can install anything that they can package up using chocolatey?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Ninite, likewise, can't manage software from Chocolatey.

                                        Considering that it bypasses the windows installer - I'm not surprised, and bypassing the installer kinda makes me uncomfortable.

                                        Does this also mean that plain jane users can install anything that they can package up using chocolatey?

                                        It replaces the installer with something more enterprise. No end users cannot.

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User
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                                          What happens if I install a program via Chocolately over the regular install? Will the Chocolately version take over?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                            @Aaron-Studer said:

                                            What happens if I install a program via Chocolately over the regular install? Will the Chocolately version take over?

                                            It won't install over. They install to different trees.

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