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    • IRJI
      IRJ
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      You cant skip CCNA nor should you. I recommend taking both CCENT courses to get your CCNA. You can just take the CCNA test if you feel confident enough

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @A Former User
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        @thecreativeone91 said:

        Last time I did certifications I did no training and passed easily but they were entry level (CompTIA certs). I passed and only missed one question on 2 of them but I think these I'll probably need to study for.

        That is pretty impressive even for an entry level cert. I studied for a long time for A+. Net + was pretty easy though

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        • IRJI
          IRJ
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          If you get your CCNP there isnt much need to do the Microsoft Certs

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom @IRJ
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            @IRJ said:

            If you get your CCNP there isnt much need to do the Microsoft Certs

            Eh, I disagree. I'd take a MCITP over a CCNA or CCNP any day. Cisco is too specific. Not everyone has Cisco gear. EVERYONE has Microsoft servers/desktops.

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            • ?
              A Former User
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              Isn't the MCITP being retired to go back to the MCSE again?

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              • ?
                A Former User
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                Seems like this would be a good path.
                https://www.microsoft.com/learning/en-us/mcse-server-infrastructure-certification.aspx

                Then you only have to take two more test for the MCSE Desktop Infrastructure cert after the server one. Then I can go on to the Sharepoint, Exchange and Lync. But what's a good place to do training online? @scottalanmiller I'm sure you have ideas? I'd like practice test as well.

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                • Bill KindleB
                  Bill Kindle @A Former User
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                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                  Isn't the MCITP being retired to go back to the MCSE again?

                  MCSA.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by

                    @ajstringham said:

                    @IRJ said:

                    If you get your CCNP there isnt much need to do the Microsoft Certs

                    Eh, I disagree. I'd take a MCITP over a CCNA or CCNP any day. Cisco is too specific. Not everyone has Cisco gear. EVERYONE has Microsoft servers/desktops.

                    My point is that CCNP is not an entry cert like MCP. If you are going to spend the time and effort to get CCNP. Then you are establishing yourself as a Cisco Guy. I actually have done the exact opposite. I have gotten my MCSE. and have not pursued an Cisco certs because I am all in as a Microsoft admin. I have done all the CCNA training on 3 different occasions. I just never took the test

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                    • ?
                      A Former User @Bill Kindle
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                      @Bill-Kindle Isn't the MSSE higher up and more recognized? or is the MCSA required before taking the MCSE? I've seen a few people say that it is but microsoft never says that's it's required first anywhere.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
                        last edited by

                        Here is how it works. You get MCP for completing your first Microsoft test. Then you work towards MCSA. After you work towards MCSA on your specific field. You can work towards MCSE.

                        for example MCSA Server is 3 tests and MCSE is 5 tests total.

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                        • Bill KindleB
                          Bill Kindle @A Former User
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                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          @Bill-Kindle Isn't the MSSE higher up and more recognized? or is the MCSA required before taking the MCSE? I've seen a few people say that it is but microsoft never says that's it's required first anywhere.

                          MCSA is required before you take the last two exams, that gives you the Server Infrastructure certification (MCSE)
                          https://www.microsoft.com/learning/en-us/mcse-server-infrastructure-certification.aspx

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @Bill Kindle
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                            @Bill-Kindle Okay that makes since, so It's already included in the track. It's not like you have to take them twice.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User
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                              I'm looking at this for training. http://beta.pluralsight.com/signup Anyone have experience with them?

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                              • thanksajdotcomT
                                thanksajdotcom @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                I'm looking at this for training. http://beta.pluralsight.com/signup Anyone have experience with them?

                                NTG is a huge Trainsignal/Pluralsight fan. If you can learn by videos, then do it by all means! I'm too ADD to watch tech videos and get anything out of them.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                  @IRJ said:

                                  You cant skip CCNA nor should you. I recommend taking both CCENT courses to get your CCNA. You can just take the CCNA test if you feel confident enough

                                  These are network certs. Not applicable to systems administration. If you want to go networking and Cisco then yes they are needed. But if system admin is your goal they aren't valuable.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                    @IRJ said:

                                    If you get your CCNP there isnt much need to do the Microsoft Certs

                                    Unless you want to work as a Windows Admin. It's like saying there is no need for medical school if you are already a lawyer.

                                    Two different career paths.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      Isn't the MCITP being retired to go back to the MCSE again?

                                      MCITP was retired and was lower level. The MCSE is their top level as they have no masters level now.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        I'm looking at this for training. http://beta.pluralsight.com/signup Anyone have experience with them?

                                        They are cheap and I use them. They are decent. Can't beat the price.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          The most important thing before doing certs is to define your career path. You want to know where you are headed then choose certs to help to get you there.

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            Isn't the MCITP being retired to go back to the MCSE again?

                                            MCITP was retired and was lower level. The MCSE is their top level as they have no masters level now.

                                            That's what I meant. I always mix up which one was retired and keep thinking they retired MCSE. It's MCSE and MCSA now. facepalm

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