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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
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@bnrstnr said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
I was wondering the same thing as I was looking to spin up a Zimbra server for my lab.
Use CentOS 7. It's our last CentOS workload here.
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@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
Oh... wow... a FOSS product would puke if you weren't using paid OS support? That's just overall very weird.
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@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
If Zimbra product release notes were to state "we are NEVER going to not require CentOS", and you wanted to use Fedora Server... what email system would you switch to? Not necessarily just for the masses.. just what you personally like when it comes to supported features like calendars, native support for signatures and control over originating format when replying/forwarding (plain text/html) without using 3rd party plugins, etc.
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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
If Zimbra product release notes were to state "we are NEVER going to not require CentOS", and you wanted to use Fedora Server... what email system would you switch to? Not necessarily just for the masses.. just what you personally like when it comes to supported features like calendars, native support for signatures and control over originating format when replying/forwarding (plain text/html) without using 3rd party plugins, etc.
Don't know any enterprise email systems running on Fedora. Maybe Mailbear supports it?
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@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
If Zimbra product release notes were to state "we are NEVER going to not require CentOS", and you wanted to use Fedora Server... what email system would you switch to? Not necessarily just for the masses.. just what you personally like when it comes to supported features like calendars, native support for signatures and control over originating format when replying/forwarding (plain text/html) without using 3rd party plugins, etc.
Don't know any enterprise email systems running on Fedora.
Ah, that answers that question. Everything is CentOS, RHEL, IBM, etc?
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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Yes, Zimbra targets LTS releases only
It's a major fail. In the 2000s, they actually did RHEL detection and would barf if you ran CentOS! You had to alter their installer to make it work.
If Zimbra product release notes were to state "we are NEVER going to not require CentOS", and you wanted to use Fedora Server... what email system would you switch to? Not necessarily just for the masses.. just what you personally like when it comes to supported features like calendars, native support for signatures and control over originating format when replying/forwarding (plain text/html) without using 3rd party plugins, etc.
Don't know any enterprise email systems running on Fedora.
Ah, that answers that question. Everything is CentOS, RHEL, IBM, etc?
Pretty much. Axigen is the same.... CentOS, RHEL, Leap.
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@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Zimbra does not require CentOS, you can also use Ubuntu which others might not like.
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@dbeato said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Zimbra does not require CentOS, you can also use Ubuntu which others might not like.
We mean in the context of the RPM distos. It only supports Ubuntu LTS and not current which is arguably not even a form of support since Ubuntuβs own support path can be to force you to current meaning Zimbra isnβt actually supported in that ecosystem.
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@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@dbeato said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Zimbra does not require CentOS, you can also use Ubuntu which others might not like.
We mean in the context of the RPM distos. It only supports Ubuntu LTS and not current which is arguably not even a form of support since Ubuntuβs own support path can be to force you to current meaning Zimbra isnβt actually supported in that ecosystem.
Yeah, Zimbra supports Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but yeah we are almost on 18.04
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@dbeato said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@dbeato said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@scottalanmiller said in Goto Linux Server OS:
@bbigford said in Goto Linux Server OS:
RHEL if support is required, CentOS if I'm being lazy on updates (joke); beginning to just use Fedora Server for everything not requiring support. I will probably start phasing out CentOS.
That's what we are doing. CentOS is nearly gone now. Only required for Zimbra.
Zimbra actually requires CentOS? Can't use FS?
Zimbra does not require CentOS, you can also use Ubuntu which others might not like.
We mean in the context of the RPM distos. It only supports Ubuntu LTS and not current which is arguably not even a form of support since Ubuntuβs own support path can be to force you to current meaning Zimbra isnβt actually supported in that ecosystem.
Yeah, Zimbra supports Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but yeah we are almost on 18.04
Yeah. So far worse than only supporting CentOS 7 in the RPM world. At least RHEL 7 offers full support from the vendor, not partial.