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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

      And doing that gets you upgraded service. From Microsoft.

      Yes. MS needs to encourage everyone to be with a partner. That's how they do it.

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      • NetworkNerdN
        NetworkNerd
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        Is there a way I can guarantee internal e-mail would not leave the country through O365? If can't get that part handled we'd be in violation of ITAR.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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          @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

          Is there a way I can guarantee internal e-mail would not leave the country through O365? If can't get that part handled we'd be in violation of ITAR.

          AFAIK ITAR is not supported on O365. You should have asked that up front as that has been covered previously. And ANY questions like that can only be addressed directly to Microsoft, no reseller or partner can guarantee that for you, no matter what line they feed you. They don't have that power. Microsoft might have added ITAR support, but if they did, it is very recent.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            ITAR is the only major reason that I have heard for people not using O365. It's not for business reasons, but legal ones.

            Pretty much you always run your own email for ITAR support.

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            • NetworkNerdN
              NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

              @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

              Is there a way I can guarantee internal e-mail would not leave the country through O365? If can't get that part handled we'd be in violation of ITAR.

              AFAIK ITAR is not supported on O365. You should have asked that up front as that has been covered previously. And ANY questions like that can only be addressed directly to Microsoft, no reseller or partner can guarantee that for you, no matter what line they feed you. They don't have that power. Microsoft might have added ITAR support, but if they did, it is very recent.

              I didn't mention ITAR in my post but did ask about guaranteeing e-mail would not leave the US. Then I guess we continue to keep it in house. Thanks everyone for the help.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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                @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                I didn't mention ITAR in my post but did ask about guaranteeing e-mail would not leave the US. Then I guess we continue to keep it in house.

                Yes, but ITAR might have been ruled out for other reasons. I didn't know why ITAR wasn't available, but knew from previous questions that ITAR was a "ruling out" factor. It's very possible that Microsoft will certify that email will remain in the US "under certain conditions" but that ITAR is still not covered.

                With O365, as it is a global service, email moves outside of the US the moment that you tell the system that you live elsewhere. So that alone might rule out ITAR even though for a private company they might be able to guarantee US only storage.

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                • NetworkNerdN
                  NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller

                  Would companies like Rackspace or Intermedia who do hosted Exchange be an option? Perhaps they could guarantee the inter-mailbox traffic would be kept in the US?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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                    @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                    @scottalanmiller

                    Would companies like Rackspace or Intermedia who do hosted Exchange be an option? Perhaps they could guarantee the inter-mailbox traffic would be kept in the US?

                    It's possible. You'd have to talk to each individually. You need more than just US based, though, you need full ITAR compliance. Don't get caught in the weeds or you might spend a lot of time researching and think that you found something and then find out that they are not ITAR for some other reasons.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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                      @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                      @scottalanmiller

                      Would companies like Rackspace or Intermedia who do hosted Exchange be an option? Perhaps they could guarantee the inter-mailbox traffic would be kept in the US?

                      You should just ask Microsoft, because I think you've gotten all turned around because of talking to resellers. You have been getting bad info because you thought you were asking about Office 365 but because you were with a reseller you were getting info on THEIR services rather than on Office 365. Did you ask your partner, not reseller, about ITAR with Office 365 (that's NTG, so I think that you did not.) You should go through the right path, I think you'll probably find that you can get it. But you need to ask the right questions of the right people.

                      Microsoft has Office 365 ITAR info in a PDF that Google will not give me the URL for. But just Google "Office 365 ITAR Hosting" and it is the first result.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        For ITAR hosting the ONLY option is to ask the host themselves, and to ask about ITAR directly. I think that you will find that Office 365 handles ITAR when you work with a partner, but not with a reseller.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Confirmed, Office 365 has specific ITAR plans.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                            Confirmed, Office 365 has specific ITAR plans.

                            I assume in the government plans?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Office365 Considerations:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                              Confirmed, Office 365 has specific ITAR plans.

                              I assume in the government plans?

                              Yes, the ITAR offerings are government only from what I have seen.

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                              • NetworkNerdN
                                NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @JaredBusch said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                Confirmed, Office 365 has specific ITAR plans.

                                I assume in the government plans?

                                Yes, the ITAR offerings are government only from what I have seen.

                                I assume that means the cost skyrockets but don't know. My guess is there are minimum user accounts you have to meet as well.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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                                  @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  Confirmed, Office 365 has specific ITAR plans.

                                  I assume in the government plans?

                                  Yes, the ITAR offerings are government only from what I have seen.

                                  I assume that means the cost skyrockets but don't know. My guess is there are minimum user accounts you have to meet as well.

                                  ITAR will always raise the cost because you are demanding that things done to lower costs can't be done; and you force them to do special stuff just for you. No matter what, it makes the cost of service delivery much higher.

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