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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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      @Mike-Davis said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

      For small/remote offices I like the look of the little HP Microservers. They come with what looks to be fake raid.

      It's low end software RAID. Nothing fake about it, they make no claims to it not being software. But it's a good reason why SMBs generally avoid the hardware.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

        @Mike-Davis said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

        For small/remote offices I like the look of the little HP Microservers. They come with what looks to be fake raid.

        It's low end software RAID. Nothing fake about it, they make no claims to it not being software. But it's a good reason why SMBs generally avoid the hardware.

        So would you recommend avoiding it entirely?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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          @Mike-Davis said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

          Do I really care for a server with really light loads?

          Software RAID is for systems with the heaviest loads. But they are also for shops with dedicated support staff that know the hardware. Does the P222 allow for blind swaps?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

            @DustinB3403 Well, you'd use mdadm for a local software RAID, DRBD is for the network side of things.

            MD is the RAID, MDADM is the management utility.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

              @travisdh1 said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

              @DustinB3403 Well, you'd use mdadm for a local software RAID, DRBD is for the network side of things.

              MD is the RAID, MDADM is the management utility.

              I know, yet I always refer to the wrong one 😕

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                @scottalanmiller said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                @Mike-Davis said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                For small/remote offices I like the look of the little HP Microservers. They come with what looks to be fake raid.

                It's low end software RAID. Nothing fake about it, they make no claims to it not being software. But it's a good reason why SMBs generally avoid the hardware.

                So would you recommend avoiding it entirely?

                Generally, yes. They are VERY low power units. There is almost always a better option. The lack of hardware RAID is a big deal in those little units. There are use cases for them, but very few.

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                • Mike DavisM
                  Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller So what server would you recommend instead for a small office with a handful of users?

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @Mike Davis
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                    @Mike-Davis said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                    @scottalanmiller So what server would you recommend instead for a small office with a handful of users?

                    First question is always, do they even need their own server on-site? If yes, then: Stallard Technologies PowerEdge T410, or xByte PoerEdge T420

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                      @Mike-Davis said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                      @scottalanmiller So what server would you recommend instead for a small office with a handful of users?

                      The refurb Dell from xByte is a great way to go.

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                      • DenisKelleyD
                        DenisKelley
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                        They are okay units. The unit I reviewed on Spiceworks used the B-series software raid. It currently is the replication target and has been running almost continually for almost 2 years. As for running for a small office, I'd be more comfortable with a better card.

                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/453126-a-spicehead-s-review-of-the-hp-proliant-microserver

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                          • RomoR
                            Romo
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                            How about a supermicro micro tower, hot swap enabled and similar form factor. Here is an image with pricing from the mx supermicro site

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              I love those supermicro micro servers.

                              Just awesome compact units.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Romo
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                                @Romo said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                                How about a supermicro micro tower, hot swap enabled and similar form factor. Here is an image with pricing from the mx supermicro site

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                                Have not seen these, that's awesome. What is the hardware RAID option on those? I do love SuperMicro in general.

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                                • RomoR
                                  Romo @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller Don't thinks these have hardware raid by default, so MD raid would have to be used.

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                                  • momurdaM
                                    momurda
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                                    2 10G ports mobo and a chassis for $1400? Wow that is sweet.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Romo
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                                      @Romo said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                                      @scottalanmiller Don't thinks these have hardware raid by default, so MD raid would have to be used.

                                      The HP Micro does that much 😞

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                                      • RomoR
                                        Romo @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                                        @Romo said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                                        @scottalanmiller Don't thinks these have hardware raid by default, so MD raid would have to be used.

                                        The HP Micro does that much 😞

                                        Doesn't the HP Micro have Fake Raid as default?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Romo
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                                          @Romo said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                                          @Romo said in HP Microserver RAID controller:

                                          @scottalanmiller Don't thinks these have hardware raid by default, so MD raid would have to be used.

                                          The HP Micro does that much 😞

                                          Doesn't the HP Micro have Fake Raid as default?

                                          No, but it does have an HP SmartArray software RAID option. But software RAID can't be a "default" with a hardware device, it's not a possibility.

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                                          • RomoR
                                            Romo @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller Sorry, poor choice of words. I ment to say, the HP Micro didn't have a dedicated hardware raid card in the initial configuration.

                                            The super Micro also has fake raid.
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                                            And the motherboard list this as tested as compatible cards:
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                                            Don't really know how good any of those cards are, I have actually never used a raid card. I have only used MD raid.

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