Bosch Builds Self Driving Car with Ubuntu and Tesla S
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Yeah there is but I can't remember it now. Problem with conversions is they absolutely destroy transmissions which are not designed for the stupid amount of torque electric motors can put out from zero RPM on up.
A good electric car is electric transmission. If you have an old transmission in there, a mechanical transmission, you are getting only a fraction of the value of going electric. That screws everything up. You need to remove that to make it really work.
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@scottalanmiller said:
That's my first car! Almost. I had a 1981 Chevy Monte Carlo V8. Same frame, same look.
I've always associated Monte Carlos (the iconic, specific 80s type, usually brown) with white trash people. I can't figure out if it's a white trash car or a car popular with people who are white trash. I do sometimes see non-trashy people driving them, and it's always pretty shocking (not in a bad way), like this one time I met a black man in Russia who spoke Russian with a perfect (standard) accent. Anyway, at least where I've lived in the US, if you see a Monte Carlo, odds are the person driving it is white and is either wearing a "wife beater" or no shirt at all on his way to a meth dealer.
Then again my first car was a Trabant 601, so I don't really know classy.
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Well, I am awfully red neck.
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@scottalanmiller said:
A good electric car is electric transmission. If you have an old transmission in there, a mechanical transmission, you are getting only a fraction of the value of going electric. That screws everything up. You need to remove that to make it really work.
Yeah there's some associated power loss but no different than a gasoline engine. I just mentioned it because you need a beefy one to handle the torque. I want that same driving feel, hell, even a manual would be a TON of fun!
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@MattSpeller said:
Yeah there's some associated power loss but no different than a gasoline engine. I just mentioned it because you need a beefy one to handle the torque. I want that same driving feel, hell, even a manual would be a TON of fun!
It's a lot of loss of power, having to go through the gears and shifting is all unnecessary. It would work, but it just adds things to break, lowers the power and cripples the electric system.
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@scottalanmiller Yeah and sweet burnouts. You can keep your fancy pants electronics and stuff, I want to go around corners sideways in a blaze of smoke
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Yeah and sweet burnouts. You can keep your fancy pants electronics and stuff, I want to go around corners sideways in a blaze of smoke
If I'm not mistaken this could easily be done in an electric car since you are always in your torque/power band. I think the major reason it doesn't is stability/skid control.
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@coliver 100% correct
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@MattSpeller said:
@coliver 100% correct
To be fair... I love a manual transmission. Probably some of the most fun I've ever had when driving a car.
I wonder if electric cars will adopt new transmission styles like the CVT transmission a lot of the Japanese manufacturers are going to.
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@coliver I love mine too. Good grief I hope not all of them. It's ok if you want to purchase transportation. Then mileage and features and stability (fun)control are all excellent items to look for. I want my next car to terrify me a bit, for which none of those features would add anything useful unless they're easily disabled.
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@MattSpeller said:
@coliver I love mine too. Good grief I hope not all of them. It's ok if you want to purchase transportation. Then mileage and features and stability (fun)control are all excellent items to look for. I want my next car to terrify me a bit, for which none of those features would add anything useful unless they're easily disabled.
Haha... I would love to get a track car at some point in the future... although I would probably get a track bike instead... a lot less overhead.
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Here we can track cars "trains".
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@coliver said:
To be fair... I love a manual transmission. Probably some of the most fun I've ever had when driving a car.
I love manual and one of the benefits of living in Europe is that everything is manual.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
To be fair... I love a manual transmission. Probably some of the most fun I've ever had when driving a car.
I love manual and one of the benefits of living in Europe is that everything is manual.
and diesel.
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Yup, way more diesel than benzine here. About 25% of pumps are diesel only!
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This is cute, but there's no substitute for cubic inches. Period.
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@art_of_shred said:
This is cute, but there's no substitute for cubic inches. Period.
You can only say that not having been in a Tesla. No engine on the market makes you launch like those electric engines.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@art_of_shred said:
This is cute, but there's no substitute for cubic inches. Period.
You can only say that not having been in a Tesla. No engine on the market makes you launch like those electric engines.
I've seen the stats on the electric motorcycle that Honda (I think) made... dangerous doesn't even begin to cover it.
