Bosch Builds Self Driving Car with Ubuntu and Tesla S
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@scottalanmiller said:
That's my first car! Almost. I had a 1981 Chevy Monte Carlo V8. Same frame, same look.
Holy crap, mine too - I had an 81 Olds Cutlass Calais with the t-tops and a thirsty gutless V8
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I've got a buddy that does those conversions
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@MattSpeller said:
Holy crap, mine too - I had an 81 Olds Cutlass Calais with the t-tops and a thirsty gutless V8
I had the rare California 267.
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Low torque but amazing top end.
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How much does a 400-500HP equivalent conversion cost?
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@MattSpeller said:
How much does a 400-500HP equivalent conversion cost?
I have no idea. Is there really a way to do an equivalency? The two engine types are so dramatically different. I don't think that a Tesla S has that much HP but it will deform your eyeballs is straight line acceleration.
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Man... cars used to be so awesome... my first car was a Chevy Aveo hatchback... Always thought that would be a cool car to convert to electric just from size/weight alone.
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@scottalanmiller Yeah there is but I can't remember it now. Problem with conversions is they absolutely destroy transmissions which are not designed for the stupid amount of torque electric motors can put out from zero RPM on up.
I looked into one of the Ford Ranger conversions almost a decade ago and they were cool but still really gutless and no range on lead acid batteries.
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Yeah there is but I can't remember it now. Problem with conversions is they absolutely destroy transmissions which are not designed for the stupid amount of torque electric motors can put out from zero RPM on up.
A good electric car is electric transmission. If you have an old transmission in there, a mechanical transmission, you are getting only a fraction of the value of going electric. That screws everything up. You need to remove that to make it really work.
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@scottalanmiller said:
That's my first car! Almost. I had a 1981 Chevy Monte Carlo V8. Same frame, same look.
I've always associated Monte Carlos (the iconic, specific 80s type, usually brown) with white trash people. I can't figure out if it's a white trash car or a car popular with people who are white trash. I do sometimes see non-trashy people driving them, and it's always pretty shocking (not in a bad way), like this one time I met a black man in Russia who spoke Russian with a perfect (standard) accent. Anyway, at least where I've lived in the US, if you see a Monte Carlo, odds are the person driving it is white and is either wearing a "wife beater" or no shirt at all on his way to a meth dealer.
Then again my first car was a Trabant 601, so I don't really know classy.
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Well, I am awfully red neck.
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@scottalanmiller said:
A good electric car is electric transmission. If you have an old transmission in there, a mechanical transmission, you are getting only a fraction of the value of going electric. That screws everything up. You need to remove that to make it really work.
Yeah there's some associated power loss but no different than a gasoline engine. I just mentioned it because you need a beefy one to handle the torque. I want that same driving feel, hell, even a manual would be a TON of fun!
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@MattSpeller said:
Yeah there's some associated power loss but no different than a gasoline engine. I just mentioned it because you need a beefy one to handle the torque. I want that same driving feel, hell, even a manual would be a TON of fun!
It's a lot of loss of power, having to go through the gears and shifting is all unnecessary. It would work, but it just adds things to break, lowers the power and cripples the electric system.
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@scottalanmiller Yeah and sweet burnouts. You can keep your fancy pants electronics and stuff, I want to go around corners sideways in a blaze of smoke
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Yeah and sweet burnouts. You can keep your fancy pants electronics and stuff, I want to go around corners sideways in a blaze of smoke
If I'm not mistaken this could easily be done in an electric car since you are always in your torque/power band. I think the major reason it doesn't is stability/skid control.
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@coliver 100% correct
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@MattSpeller said:
@coliver 100% correct
To be fair... I love a manual transmission. Probably some of the most fun I've ever had when driving a car.
I wonder if electric cars will adopt new transmission styles like the CVT transmission a lot of the Japanese manufacturers are going to.
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@coliver I love mine too. Good grief I hope not all of them. It's ok if you want to purchase transportation. Then mileage and features and stability (fun)control are all excellent items to look for. I want my next car to terrify me a bit, for which none of those features would add anything useful unless they're easily disabled.
I'm sorry 
