Web design for non-profit
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We use Joomla in house right now. But Concrete5 is what I see a lot of local devs pitching.
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@scottalanmiller said:
There are some cheesy tools out there. Or you can hire someone. I know that both @DonutDetroyer and @MarigabyFrias do web design. Maybe they can help out.
Stuff like NetObjects Fusion and Xara Web Designer?
@thecreativeone91 said:
Use Concerte5 and buy a professional theme (they cost between $10-$200).
Thanks, I'll take a look. Do you purchase the themes directly from them or elsewhere?
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@Danp said:
Thanks, I'll take a look. Do you purchase the themes directly from them or elsewhere?
Direct. They have a market place.
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@Danp said:
Stuff like NetObjects Fusion and Xara Web Designer?
I wouldn't think so. Normal web design.
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@Danp said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I wouldn't think so. Normal web design.
What, you mean like an html editor?
They'd do PHP or similar raw who needs an editor when you have Notepad++. Editoris always make bad code, including Dreamweaver & FrontPage.
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I definitely agree with buying a theme for their site. Don't be afraid to spend more on the theme upfront. The higher cost themes generally have more features, and more support.
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Thanks for the input thus far. I already have an account with ASO (thanks to the earlier review by @scottalanmiller), so I should be able to load up a site there for testing.
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@Danp said:
Thanks for the input thus far. I already have an account with ASO (thanks to the earlier review by @scottalanmiller), so I should be able to load up a site there for testing.
Nice, I think I am going to be setting up a site with them tomorrow.
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@Danp said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I wouldn't think so. Normal web design.
What, you mean like an html editor?
I'm confused. You are asking for design but then listing tools. What does the tooling matter? I always did web design in a text editor.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
They'd do PHP or similar raw who needs an editor when you have Notepad++. Editoris always make bad code, including Dreamweaver & FrontPage.
Those tools seem to mostly be for non-designers who need some hand holding. I don't know of any serious designer that has every used those. Not since Dreamweaver circa 2004. Notepad++, Atom, vi, Sublime or similar are so easy.
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Agreed, between Notepadd++ the features of CPanel, and even just editing the files from within the site... What more does one need.
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@Sparkum said:
Agreed, between Notepadd++ the features of CPanel, and even just editing the files from within the site... What more does one need.
I wouldn't use the cpanel editor. I've had it cause issues. It will sometimes put in spaces, corrupt the file, or change the encoding.
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@thecreativeone91
Oh really, guess I've been lucky so far.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Sparkum said:
Agreed, between Notepadd++ the features of CPanel, and even just editing the files from within the site... What more does one need.
I wouldn't use the cpanel editor. I've had it cause issues. It will sometimes put in spaces, corrupt the file, or change the encoding.
Not the cPanel Editor, the additional cPanel Code Editor. It specifically addresses those issues.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@Sparkum said:
Agreed, between Notepadd++ the features of CPanel, and even just editing the files from within the site... What more does one need.
I wouldn't use the cpanel editor. I've had it cause issues. It will sometimes put in spaces, corrupt the file, or change the encoding.
Not the cPanel Editor, the additional cPanel Code Editor. It specifically addresses those issues.
But it still buggs out sometimes.. hence why I don't care for it.
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Hmmm.... haven't used it much but haven't seen any issues with it. Would be pretty klunky to use for actual code editing, though.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I'm confused. You are asking for design but then listing tools. What does the tooling matter? I always did web design in a text editor.
I'm just trying to provide some guidance to their non-technical marketing person who currently updates their site with the built-in 1&1 "gui". She's not going to build an entire site using a text editor and PHP.
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@Danp said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I'm confused. You are asking for design but then listing tools. What does the tooling matter? I always did web design in a text editor.
I'm just trying to provide some guidance to their non-technical marketing person who currently updates their site with the built-in 1&1 "gui". She's not going to build an entire site using a text editor and PHP.
Ah, that's not really related. If you are hiring a web designer, they do the design. If you want your person to be the designer, you don't hire a designer.
Why are you consider hiring someone if the goal is for the existing person to keep doing it even if she doesn't know how?
I'm confused as to the means and the ends here.
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Why does "updating the site" have some relationship to "designing the site?"