Its amazing how many vendors....
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj that's kinda true. I do find that I can find things again more easily. Although I do enjoy the constant stream, constant update approach too. But on 2,000 post threads, it gets to be a mess.
Exactly. There is actually a thing scientists have created as a label for people who can't remember the answer to a question but they remember how to find it. I believe it was called the Google effect but I may be wrong. Like remembering that the answer to someone's question is on page 2, third link down of a given search in Google, but not remembering the exact answer. Used to happen to people long before Google but it was second paragraph on page 67 of this book. Remembering where and how to find it without remembering the actual item.
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What you are describing is the "book effect." Humans naturally (or evolutionarily or environmentally) are conditioned to be able to recall locations in media like books to find something that they had seen before.
The Google effect is a similar one but one about the ability to backtrack search or link results to find information. So related, but the exact description you are giving is one that goes back thousands of years.
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@scottalanmiller said:
What you are describing is the "book effect." Humans naturally (or evolutionarily or environmentally) are conditioned to be able to recall locations in media like books to find something that they had seen before.
The Google effect is a similar one but one about the ability to backtrack search or link results to find information. So related, but the exact description you are giving is one that goes back thousands of years.
Ok.
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Hmmm... I like the stream but I am now going to see if I can't find the pages option.
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@coliver said:
Hmmm... I like the stream but I am now going to see if I can't find the pages option.
I have no clue where the setting is off the top of my head...
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http://mangolassi.it/user/coliver/settings
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@thanksaj said:
http://mangolassi.it/user/coliver/settings
That should take you to the page.Yep found it shortly after I posted. I guess I had never dug into the settings too far... ML is much more responsive now that I've turned pagination on.
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So how does it look when you have zero reviews on SW? I haven't even attempted to tackle that yet as its hard enough for me to get a customer to find time to do a case study, let alone have them go create a SW profile to go write a review for us.
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@SarawithanH said:
So how does it look when you have zero reviews on SW? I haven't even attempted to tackle that yet as its hard enough for me to get a customer to find time to do a case study, let alone have them go create a SW profile to go write a review for us.
Do not ask customers not on SW to join SW just to submit reviews. I got furious/livid at another vendor who did just that.
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@SarawithanH, there is a reason Quorum GGs and I are like oil and water...
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@thanksaj That's literally what we were encouraged to do in a round about way by our SW account manager. (Will I get in trouble for saying that on here?)
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@SarawithanH said:
@thanksaj That's literally what we were encouraged to do in a round about way by our SW account manager. (Will I get in trouble for saying that on here?)
Oh, really? Honestly, I'm not surprised. It's a win-win for SW. New members, more content for THEIR site. Well, let me advise you: DO NOT DO IT!
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Funny thing I just realized: if you watch the demo, and the fact that Quorum is a customer of theirs, it might explain some of the reviews... just food for thought.
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@thanksaj said:
@SarawithanH said:
@thanksaj That's literally what we were encouraged to do in a round about way by our SW account manager. (Will I get in trouble for saying that on here?)
Oh, really? Honestly, I'm not surprised. It's a win-win for SW. New members, more content for THEIR site. Well, let me advise you: DO NOT DO IT!
Get them on Spiceworks, have them write a reveiw, and then let them become active in the community. Its not an issue to tell someone to write a review about a genuine product that they feel passionate about. Its an issue when you have pimentos do all your reviews. It just makes everything look fake.
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@SarawithanH said:
Funny thing I just realized: if you watch the demo, and the fact that Quorum is a customer of theirs, it might explain some of the reviews... just food for thought.
It seems like their product works...lol
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@IRJ said:
@thanksaj said:
@SarawithanH said:
@thanksaj That's literally what we were encouraged to do in a round about way by our SW account manager. (Will I get in trouble for saying that on here?)
Oh, really? Honestly, I'm not surprised. It's a win-win for SW. New members, more content for THEIR site. Well, let me advise you: DO NOT DO IT!
Get them on Spiceworks, have them write a reveiw, and then let them become active in the community. Its not an issue to tell someone to write a review about a genuine product that they feel passionate about. Its an issue when you have pimentos do all your reviews. It just makes everything look fake.
Exactly. If they were encouraging their customers to join, review AND participate in the community, even a little, I'd be thrilled. But when they tell their customers to create an account, do one review, and then they can be done with the site, it's like you said. You get 100 reviews with 98 of them being by someone Anaheim or lower....
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@thanksaj said:
@IRJ said:
@thanksaj said:
@SarawithanH said:
@thanksaj That's literally what we were encouraged to do in a round about way by our SW account manager. (Will I get in trouble for saying that on here?)
Oh, really? Honestly, I'm not surprised. It's a win-win for SW. New members, more content for THEIR site. Well, let me advise you: DO NOT DO IT!
Get them on Spiceworks, have them write a reveiw, and then let them become active in the community. Its not an issue to tell someone to write a review about a genuine product that they feel passionate about. Its an issue when you have pimentos do all your reviews. It just makes everything look fake.
Exactly. If they were encouraging their customers to join, review AND participate in the community, even a little, I'd be thrilled. But when they tell their customers to create an account, do one review, and then they can be done with the site, it's like you said. You get 100 reviews with 98 of them being by someone Anaheim or lower....
Even if 5 out of 10 reviews were by active members....it would mean alot
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@IRJ said:
@thanksaj said:
@IRJ said:
@thanksaj said:
@SarawithanH said:
@thanksaj That's literally what we were encouraged to do in a round about way by our SW account manager. (Will I get in trouble for saying that on here?)
Oh, really? Honestly, I'm not surprised. It's a win-win for SW. New members, more content for THEIR site. Well, let me advise you: DO NOT DO IT!
Get them on Spiceworks, have them write a reveiw, and then let them become active in the community. Its not an issue to tell someone to write a review about a genuine product that they feel passionate about. Its an issue when you have pimentos do all your reviews. It just makes everything look fake.
Exactly. If they were encouraging their customers to join, review AND participate in the community, even a little, I'd be thrilled. But when they tell their customers to create an account, do one review, and then they can be done with the site, it's like you said. You get 100 reviews with 98 of them being by someone Anaheim or lower....
Even if 5 out of 10 reviews were by active members....it would mean alot
Exactly. That was my frustration. Were they technically doing anything "wrong"? No. But they were creating a skewed perception and then advertising based on that. Their marketing people, at least, post a link to their reviews page and brag about the number of reviews they have in their email sig! Ticks me off...
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@thanksaj said:
@IRJ said:
@thanksaj said:
@IRJ said:
@thanksaj said:
@SarawithanH said:
@thanksaj That's literally what we were encouraged to do in a round about way by our SW account manager. (Will I get in trouble for saying that on here?)
Oh, really? Honestly, I'm not surprised. It's a win-win for SW. New members, more content for THEIR site. Well, let me advise you: DO NOT DO IT!
Get them on Spiceworks, have them write a reveiw, and then let them become active in the community. Its not an issue to tell someone to write a review about a genuine product that they feel passionate about. Its an issue when you have pimentos do all your reviews. It just makes everything look fake.
Exactly. If they were encouraging their customers to join, review AND participate in the community, even a little, I'd be thrilled. But when they tell their customers to create an account, do one review, and then they can be done with the site, it's like you said. You get 100 reviews with 98 of them being by someone Anaheim or lower....
Even if 5 out of 10 reviews were by active members....it would mean alot
Exactly. That was my frustration. Were they technically doing anything "wrong"? No. But they were creating a skewed perception and then advertising based on that. Their marketing people, at least, post a link to their reviews page and brag about the number of reviews they have in their email sig! Ticks me off...
Personally it ticks me off, too
On the other hand, I am sure those guys are all about the commission they get from it. Sales people that aren't in your face probably lie just as much if not more.
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@IRJ If you see some like that all you have to do is report them. I've done that before with sketchy reviews.
