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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IRJ
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      @IRJ said:

      Well the Bills and Dolphins hate each other and obviously the Jets hate the Dolphins too

      No sports teams in the Utica area of any standing. Jets are NJ and far away. Bills are Buffalo, many cities away.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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        @thanksaj said:

        ...don't find a ton of Jets fans....

        FTFY

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        • IRJI
          IRJ @scottalanmiller
          last edited by IRJ

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IRJ said:

          Well the Bills and Dolphins hate each other and obviously the Jets hate the Dolphins too

          No sports teams in the Utica area of any standing. Jets are NJ and far away. Bills are Buffalo, many cities away.

          Right, but Buffalo would be considered the local team. I live about 2.5 hours from Miami, but you will find 90% of the people here are Fins fans because its closer than any other NFL team

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IRJ
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            @IRJ said:

            Right, but Buffalo would be considered the local team. I live about 2.5 hours from Miami, but you will find 90% of the people here are Fins fans because its closer than any other NFL team

            But Miami isn't a rival city to you.

            Buffalo is a different region of NY and Utica is equidistant between there and NJ. Utica is seriously not Bills country.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Utica is solidly in Giants territory...

              http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/the-geography-of-nfl-fandom/379729/

              http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/FB_NFL_Fandom.jpg

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              • thanksajdotcomT
                thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller Scott, yes, the Giants and the Jets play in the Meadowlands, which is in NJ. But they are NY teams. Get over it.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  You might not know NY counties like I do, but that is Cayuga County going to the Giants. Wayne County, the eastern Rochester suburbs, is the last Bills county in NY. That puts one entire major metro area between Utica and Bills country. The Bills are very much just a Buffalo/Rochester team. Buffalo and Rochester act much like a single dual binary metro (like the DFW) and don't really associated with the more distant cities like Syracuse even though technically Rochester and Syracuse are both in the Finger Lakes. Rochester and Buffalo are both on the great lakes and the Bills are in the suburbs on the Rochester side of Buffalo. Both associate with Canada, but Syracuse and Utica do not.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                    @thanksaj said:

                    @scottalanmiller Scott, yes, the Giants and the Jets play in the Meadowlands, which is in NJ. But they are NY teams. Get over it.

                    They are NJ teams, there is nothing to get over. Don't be petty just because you are from a region that has no team to call its own. You can't claim another state's teams just because you say so.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Utica is solidly in Giants territory...

                      http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/the-geography-of-nfl-fandom/379729/

                      http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/FB_NFL_Fandom.jpg

                      Scott, having grown up in that area, Giants and Bills are both equally loved, although people tend to be more vocal for the Giants, considering being a Bills fan is just painful. That map is a good guide, but not perfect.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by scottalanmiller

                        No true NYers would ever accept an NJ team. NY and NJ are not a shared experience. That's a lot of why American football doesn't have the following in NY that it does in most states and why NY has such a strong baseball following.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver
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                          Wait are we talking about hockey or soccer?

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                          • thanksajdotcomT
                            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @thanksaj said:

                            @scottalanmiller Scott, yes, the Giants and the Jets play in the Meadowlands, which is in NJ. But they are NY teams. Get over it.

                            They are NJ teams, there is nothing to get over. Don't be petty just because you are from a region that has no team to call its own. You can't claim another state's teams just because you say so.

                            They are the NEW YORK GIANTS! Their stadium is in New Jersey. So what?

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @thanksajdotcom
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                              @thanksaj said:

                              @scottalanmiller Scott, yes, the Giants and the Jets play in the Meadowlands, which is in NJ. But they are NY teams. Get over it.

                              NO actually the Jets are NJ team because they practice in NJ. While the Giants practice in NY

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                @thanksaj said:

                                They are the NEW YORK GIANTS! Their stadium is in New Jersey. So what?

                                Get over it AJ. They are an NJ team, that they were embarrassed by who they were and "named" themselves something else doesn't make them that. You are confusing their name with their location. No one wants to be the NJ anything, so they claim to be from NY. Where you play is where you are from. That's what that means. This isn't hard. Location is location, name is a name.

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                                • thanksajdotcomT
                                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  You might not know NY counties like I do, but that is Cayuga County going to the Giants. Wayne County, the eastern Rochester suburbs, is the last Bills county in NY. That puts one entire major metro area between Utica and Bills country. The Bills are very much just a Buffalo/Rochester team. Buffalo and Rochester act much like a single dual binary metro (like the DFW) and don't really associated with the more distant cities like Syracuse even though technically Rochester and Syracuse are both in the Finger Lakes. Rochester and Buffalo are both on the great lakes and the Bills are in the suburbs on the Rochester side of Buffalo. Both associate with Canada, but Syracuse and Utica do not.

                                  Hate to tell you this but you're flat out wrong. You will find just as diehard fans of the Bills in Syracuse and Utica as Buffalo, and not just one or two. The Bills are still very popular with cities across Central and Eastern NY. The idea that they have nothing to do with Syracuse is not right. You're not a sports fan Scott. I think I have a little more knowledge on this considering you have never followed sports.

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                                  • thanksajdotcomT
                                    thanksajdotcom @IRJ
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                                    @IRJ said:

                                    @thanksaj said:

                                    @scottalanmiller Scott, yes, the Giants and the Jets play in the Meadowlands, which is in NJ. But they are NY teams. Get over it.

                                    NO actually the Jets are NJ team because they practice in NJ. While the Giants practice in NY

                                    Last I knew, the Jets practiced in Cortland, NY.

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom
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                                      Ok, the Jets' training camp is in Cortland.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                        @thanksaj said:

                                        Hate to tell you this but you're flat out wrong. You will find just as diehard fans of the Bills in Syracuse and Utica as Buffalo, and not just one or two. The Bills are still very popular with cities across Central and Eastern NY. The idea that they have nothing to do with Syracuse is not right. You're not a sports fan Scott. I think I have a little more knowledge on this considering you have never followed sports.

                                        I'm not talking sports, just talking about the socio-economic ties between the cities. I grew up in Rochester and Buffalo and they very much do think of themselves as one region (they were the 716 for nearly a century together) and Syracuse is far away and a different place.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                          @thanksaj said:

                                          Ok, the Jets' training camp is in Cortland.

                                          I did some of my college right next to where they practiced I think.

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ @thanksajdotcom
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                                            @thanksaj said:

                                            Ok, the Jets' training camp is in Cortland.

                                            Not according to their website

                                            http://www.newyorkjets.com/footer/general-faq.html

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