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    • AdamFA
      AdamF @AdamF
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      @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

      @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

      @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

      @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

      @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

      @scottalanmiller Not to just paste text from your clipboard. Unless I am missing something....

      What else do you want to paste into the command line?

      specifically, editing files with nano.

      How is that different?

      It's not different. Let's try this again... sometimes, people want to paste multiple lines of text, or something similar from a notepad on their windows box, into a file on a *nix box. This isn't possible with putty as far as I am aware of. This cmder software solves that.

      edit: isn't possible using normal shortcuts that specific people are used to (Ctrl V)

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @AdamF
        last edited by

        @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

        @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

        @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

        @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

        @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

        @scottalanmiller Not to just paste text from your clipboard. Unless I am missing something....

        What else do you want to paste into the command line?

        specifically, editing files with nano.

        How is that different?

        It's not different. Let's try this again... sometimes, people want to paste multiple lines of text, or something similar from a notepad on their windows box, into a file on a *nix box. This isn't possible with putty as far as I am aware of. This cmder software solves that.

        I don't follow. How does cmder do that in a way that Putty does not?

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        • AdamFA
          AdamF @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller See my edit directly above.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @AdamF
            last edited by

            @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

            @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

            @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

            @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

            @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

            @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

            @scottalanmiller Not to just paste text from your clipboard. Unless I am missing something....

            What else do you want to paste into the command line?

            specifically, editing files with nano.

            How is that different?

            It's not different. Let's try this again... sometimes, people want to paste multiple lines of text, or something similar from a notepad on their windows box, into a file on a *nix box. This isn't possible with putty as far as I am aware of. This cmder software solves that.

            edit: isn't possible using normal shortcuts that specific people are used to (Ctrl V)

            Ah, the older non-standard ones.

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            • AdamFA
              AdamF @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

              @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

              @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

              @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

              @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

              @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

              @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

              @scottalanmiller Not to just paste text from your clipboard. Unless I am missing something....

              What else do you want to paste into the command line?

              specifically, editing files with nano.

              How is that different?

              It's not different. Let's try this again... sometimes, people want to paste multiple lines of text, or something similar from a notepad on their windows box, into a file on a *nix box. This isn't possible with putty as far as I am aware of. This cmder software solves that.

              edit: isn't possible using normal shortcuts that specific people are used to (Ctrl V)

              Ah, the older non-standard ones.

              The one that everyone uses in the Windows world for text editing.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                How does cmder handle sending a real Ctrl-V through if it hijacks it for pasting?

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

                  How does cmder handle sending a real Ctrl-V through if it hijacks it for pasting?

                  No one needs Ctrl+V anyway.

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                  • AdamFA
                    AdamF
                    last edited by

                    Only on ML, will we have a thread about pasting that is already 19 posts long. 🙂

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                    • momurdaM
                      momurda @AdamF
                      last edited by

                      @fuznutz04
                      This guy writes a few pages on why.
                      https://superuser.com/questions/421463/why-does-ctrl-v-not-paste-in-bash-linux-shell

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @AdamF
                        last edited by

                        @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

                        Only on ML, will we have a thread about pasting that is already 19 posts long. 🙂

                        Because we find solutions!

                        We found that the industry standard key sequence standard to all three major OS families works with putty and doesn't require new tools or anything 🙂

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                        • AdamFA
                          AdamF @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller Well now I just feel embarrassed. Yesterday, I was trying this inside a windows VM, and using a mac keyboard. I couldn't get shift insert to work properly. Tried it this morning on my windows box, and of course, it worked.

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                            marcinozga
                            last edited by marcinozga

                            Ctrl+insert - copy, shift+insert - paste, just different keys, that's all. On macOS it's cmd+c, cmd+v, different systems, different keystrokes. As an IT pro it's your job to learn these things.

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                            • AdamFA
                              AdamF @marcinozga
                              last edited by

                              @marcinozga said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

                              Ctrl+insert - copy, shift+insert - paste, just different keys, that's all. On macOS it's cmd+c, cmd+v, different systems, different keystrokes. As an IT pro it's your job to learn these things.

                              Like I said previously, Ctrl insert and shift insert was never needed personally. ctrl c and ctrl v were always used as normal copy/paste, and cmd+c and cmd+v were always used personally, since my main work machine is a MBP. Never a need for copying and pasting into a terminal from a windows box before now. But thank you for your advice regarding what to learn as an IT pro. I just did learn that.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @AdamF
                                last edited by scottalanmiller

                                @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

                                @scottalanmiller Well now I just feel embarrassed. Yesterday, I was trying this inside a windows VM, and using a mac keyboard. I couldn't get shift insert to work properly. Tried it this morning on my windows box, and of course, it worked.

                                LOL, gotcha. Blame the Mac, it's like Canada.

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                                • AdamFA
                                  AdamF @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

                                  @fuznutz04 said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

                                  @scottalanmiller Well now I just feel embarrassed. Yesterday, I was trying this inside a windows VM, and using a mac keyboard. I couldn't get shift insert to work properly. Tried it this morning on my windows box, and of course, it worked.

                                  LOL, gotcha. Blame the Mac, it's like Canada.

                                  It's so hard to blame Canada though. Everyone is so friendly.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    What happened is that DOS era had the Ctrl-V and then around the NT era they moved to the Shift-Insert mode to match UNIX because everyone had conflicts in the CTRL keys. But MS left both options for people used to the old one. But lots of people still teach the old ones as the default instead of the new, which is the biggest issue, so things have not changed over time.

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                                    • AdamFA
                                      AdamF @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Cmder - Terminal emulator:

                                      What happened is that DOS era had the Ctrl-V and then around the NT era they moved to the Shift-Insert mode to match UNIX because everyone had conflicts in the CTRL keys. But MS left both options for people used to the old one. But lots of people still teach the old ones as the default instead of the new, which is the biggest issue, so things have not changed over time.

                                      That explains it. Thank you! I was one of the ones that learned the old way.

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