Pesky Network Problem: No Internet Access
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Here's the scenario. Fios Router/Modem is the last point out. It's on a 172.16.255.0/24 network.
The network I'm trying to get working is a 10.0.0.0/24 network. Main router is a Cisco RVS4000. It's got a Cisco E3000 running dd-wrt as the WAP. The issue is:
- I can't get the FiOS router into Bridge mode. I've tried a few things and nothing works, so passing the Public IP through to the RVs4000 won't work. This leads to #2.
- I had this setup in my house in NY. The FiOS modem/router has its network and the true public IP. The RVS4000 has the 10.0.0.0/24 as it's internal and the public IP it can pull via DHCP as a private IP from the FiOS router. So It'd be...
FiOS (Public IP) > FiOS Private (172.16.255.0) > RVS4000 Public (172.16.255.0) > RVS4000 Private (10.0.0.0)
Now, the RVS4000 pulls the "public" IP from the 172.16.255.0 range. However, it will not pass any traffic through. For example, when everything runs through the FiOS router direct, it works. When I plug into the RVS4000, or connect to the wireless network it broadcasts, I have LAN but no WAN access. The FiOS router firewall is turned as far down as possible, and is lower than it was on the one in NY. The firewall for the RVS4000 is turned off, so it can't be blocking traffic. I wouldn't think there would be any NAT'ing required, as I didn't have to in NY. I'm actually using the same physical router that I was in NY. I have double-checked configs and can't figure out what in the world is going on and why it's not allowing traffic.
Any ideas would be much appreciated!
Thanks,
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@ajstringham said:
ter has its network and the true public IP. The RVS4000 has the 10.0.0.0/24 as it's internal and the public IP it can pull via DHCP as a private IP from the FiOS router. So It'd be...
FiOS (Public IP) > FiOS Private (172.16.255.0) > RVS4000 Public (172.16.255.0) > RVS4000 Private (10.0.0Have you called Verizon support to have them put it into bridge mode?
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@Bill-Kindle said:
@ajstringham said:
ter has its network and the true public IP. The RVS4000 has the 10.0.0.0/24 as it's internal and the public IP it can pull via DHCP as a private IP from the FiOS router. So It'd be...
FiOS (Public IP) > FiOS Private (172.16.255.0) > RVS4000 Public (172.16.255.0) > RVS4000 Private (10.0.0Have you called Verizon support to have them put it into bridge mode?
Is start with this.
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If you are just going to run a Belkin / Linksys router, why not just stick with the FiOS unit?
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@Bill-Kindle I've read, and may be mistaken, but I've read that if it's in bridge mode, they won't support it. I figured they wouldn't put it in bridge mode for me. Figure they might?
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@scottalanmiller Because my equipment is still superior.
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@ajstringham said:
@Bill-Kindle I've read, and may be mistaken, but I've read that if it's in bridge mode, they won't support it. I figured they wouldn't put it in bridge mode for me. Figure they might?
I think that they will. Especially if it is not working.
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller Because my equipment is still superior.
In what way? You are still behind the FiOS router so subject to all of the limitations of both.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller Because my equipment is still superior.
In what way? You are still behind the FiOS router so subject to all of the limitations of both.
Thus the reason I am trying to bridge it.
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller Because my equipment is still superior.
In what way? You are still behind the FiOS router so subject to all of the limitations of both.
Thus the reason I am trying to bridge it.
Um... you missed the point. Bridging it doesn't bypass it, it just takes it out of the Layer 3 hops.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller Because my equipment is still superior.
In what way? You are still behind the FiOS router so subject to all of the limitations of both.
Thus the reason I am trying to bridge it.
Um... you missed the point. Bridging it doesn't bypass it, it just takes it out of the Layer 3 hops.
I didn't miss the point. Unfortunately, it's also the modem, so I'm stuck with it. I don't care for it's management and interface though. On hold waiting to connect to Verizon now.
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller Because my equipment is still superior.
In what way? You are still behind the FiOS router so subject to all of the limitations of both.
Thus the reason I am trying to bridge it.
Um... you missed the point. Bridging it doesn't bypass it, it just takes it out of the Layer 3 hops.
I didn't miss the point. Unfortunately, it's also the modem, so I'm stuck with it. I don't care for it's management and interface though. On hold waiting to connect to Verizon now.
But your answer doesn't make sense if you got the point. The point was, if you put your "superior" router behind the Verizon one, you are still doubling the number of devices in line between you and the Internet.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller Because my equipment is still superior.
In what way? You are still behind the FiOS router so subject to all of the limitations of both.
Thus the reason I am trying to bridge it.
Um... you missed the point. Bridging it doesn't bypass it, it just takes it out of the Layer 3 hops.
I didn't miss the point. Unfortunately, it's also the modem, so I'm stuck with it. I don't care for it's management and interface though. On hold waiting to connect to Verizon now.
But your answer doesn't make sense if you got the point. The point was, if you put your "superior" router behind the Verizon one, you are still doubling the number of devices in line between you and the Internet.
Superior in terms of configuration options and management. I didn't say it was superior hardware.
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Besides, Verizon said that they can't bridge it, and they told me Actiontec told them that it can't be done. However, @PSX_Defector is nice enough to know there IS indeed a way and he's going to help me tonight.
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@ajstringham What features are you using?
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@ajstringham said:
Besides, Verizon said that they can't bridge it, and they told me Actiontec told them that it can't be done. However, @PSX_Defector is nice enough to know there IS indeed a way and he's going to help me tonight.
Sounds like a Tier 1 support response. I would have asked to speak to a higher level tech that knows what bridge mode means.
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@Bill-Kindle said:
@ajstringham said:
Besides, Verizon said that they can't bridge it, and they told me Actiontec told them that it can't be done. However, @PSX_Defector is nice enough to know there IS indeed a way and he's going to help me tonight.
Sounds like a Tier 1 support response. I would have asked to speak to a higher level tech that knows what bridge mode means.
Yeah, Verizon isn't very technical.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham What features are you using?
The FiOS one is a clunky interface and one I don't have time to screw around with. I like managing my own equipment.
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My FiOS modem is bridged down there in Dallas. It worked fine.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Bill-Kindle said:
@ajstringham said:
Besides, Verizon said that they can't bridge it, and they told me Actiontec told them that it can't be done. However, @PSX_Defector is nice enough to know there IS indeed a way and he's going to help me tonight.
Sounds like a Tier 1 support response. I would have asked to speak to a higher level tech that knows what bridge mode means.
Yeah, Verizon isn't very technical.
Don't tell @PSX_Defector that.
