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    • jt1001001J
      jt1001001
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      Agree with @scottalanmiller . I have had Frontier in one office and their quality has been HORRIBLE; ranks right up there with that other carrier everyone knows I love to hate (and, both from Rochester area??). Our Tampa office git stuck in the middle of the takeover and was down not for 4 hours, but 4 DAYS! Yep DAYS!. Now the billing issues have started as we had a special deal on our FiOS circuit that did not carry over.
      For residential, I am sure they are better than Time Warner, but for business, I cannot recommend them.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @jt1001001
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        @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

        Agree with @scottalanmiller . I have had Frontier in one office and their quality has been HORRIBLE; ranks right up there with that other carrier everyone knows I love to hate (and, both from Rochester area??).

        Yes, they are. It's because Rochester was not regulated like the rest of the nation so carriers that didn't meet the required standards of the rest of the country (more or less) were allowed to grow and flourish there.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @jt1001001
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          @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

          Our Tampa office git stuck in the middle of the takeover and was down not for 4 hours, but 4 DAYS! Yep DAYS!. Now the billing issues have started as we had a special deal on our FiOS circuit that did not carry over.

          I've had T1 customers in Rochester down for over six months. Four days isn't even a blip.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @jt1001001
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            @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

            For residential, I am sure they are better than Time Warner, but for business, I cannot recommend them.

            Nope, we dropped them. TW isn't way better, but better.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              NTG HQ was on Frontier from 2003 - 2006. SDSL!

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              • BrainsB
                Brains @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                Our Tampa office git stuck in the middle of the takeover and was down not for 4 hours, but 4 DAYS! Yep DAYS!. Now the billing issues have started as we had a special deal on our FiOS circuit that did not carry over.

                I've had T1 customers in Rochester down for over six months. Four days isn't even a blip.

                How was it offline that long? I know the fcc regulations have some wiggle room, I didnt know they had that much.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Brains
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                  @Brains said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                  @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                  Our Tampa office git stuck in the middle of the takeover and was down not for 4 hours, but 4 DAYS! Yep DAYS!. Now the billing issues have started as we had a special deal on our FiOS circuit that did not carry over.

                  I've had T1 customers in Rochester down for over six months. Four days isn't even a blip.

                  How was it offline that long? I know the fcc regulations have some wiggle room, I didnt know they had that much.

                  FCC does very little with T1s, especially in areas that are not regulated.

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                  • BrainsB
                    Brains @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by scottalanmiller

                    @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                    @Brains said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                    @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                    Our Tampa office git stuck in the middle of the takeover and was down not for 4 hours, but 4 DAYS! Yep DAYS!. Now the billing issues have started as we had a special deal on our FiOS circuit that did not carry over.

                    I've had T1 customers in Rochester down for over six months. Four days isn't even a blip.

                    How was it offline that long? I know the fcc regulations have some wiggle room, I didnt know they had that much.

                    FCC does very little with T1s, especially in areas that are not regulated.

                    I thought T1s had some guarantee where they had to begin working on the problem within 24-48 hours? I may be misremembering specifics

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                    • jt1001001J
                      jt1001001
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                      @scottalanmiller bet I can guess who the provider was !

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Brains
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                        @Brains said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                        @Brains said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                        @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                        Our Tampa office git stuck in the middle of the takeover and was down not for 4 hours, but 4 DAYS! Yep DAYS!. Now the billing issues have started as we had a special deal on our FiOS circuit that did not carry over.

                        I've had T1 customers in Rochester down for over six months. Four days isn't even a blip.

                        How was it offline that long? I know the fcc regulations have some wiggle room, I didnt know they had that much.

                        FCC does very little with T1s, especially in areas that are not regulated.

                        @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                        @Brains said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                        @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                        Our Tampa office git stuck in the middle of the takeover and was down not for 4 hours, but 4 DAYS! Yep DAYS!. Now the billing issues have started as we had a special deal on our FiOS circuit that did not carry over.

                        I've had T1 customers in Rochester down for over six months. Four days isn't even a blip.

                        How was it offline that long? I know the fcc regulations have some wiggle room, I didnt know they had that much.

                        FCC does very little with T1s, especially in areas that are not regulated.

                        I thought T1s had some guarantee where they had to begin working on the problem within 24-48 hours? I may be misremembering specifics

                        T1 is just a WAN connection. The SLA with a T1 is contractual and has nothing to do with regulations. Also, an SLA is what protects the vendor and keeps them from unlimited liability. An SLA that says that they "have to start work" in 24 hours only means that they have to pay whatever stipulated penalty there is. If that penalty is, say, $5 but the line makes $500 profit and it would cost $200 to fix, the SLA makes it make sense to leave the line broken as the penalty isn't enough to justify fixing it, but forces the customer to be unable to turn it off.

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                        • BrainsB
                          Brains @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          @Brains said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          @Brains said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          Our Tampa office git stuck in the middle of the takeover and was down not for 4 hours, but 4 DAYS! Yep DAYS!. Now the billing issues have started as we had a special deal on our FiOS circuit that did not carry over.

                          I've had T1 customers in Rochester down for over six months. Four days isn't even a blip.

                          How was it offline that long? I know the fcc regulations have some wiggle room, I didnt know they had that much.

                          FCC does very little with T1s, especially in areas that are not regulated.

                          @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          @Brains said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          @jt1001001 said in Former Verizon-Now Frontier Communication....why is the review so bad?:

                          Our Tampa office git stuck in the middle of the takeover and was down not for 4 hours, but 4 DAYS! Yep DAYS!. Now the billing issues have started as we had a special deal on our FiOS circuit that did not carry over.

                          I've had T1 customers in Rochester down for over six months. Four days isn't even a blip.

                          How was it offline that long? I know the fcc regulations have some wiggle room, I didnt know they had that much.

                          FCC does very little with T1s, especially in areas that are not regulated.

                          I thought T1s had some guarantee where they had to begin working on the problem within 24-48 hours? I may be misremembering specifics

                          T1 is just a WAN connection. The SLA with a T1 is contractual and has nothing to do with regulations. Also, an SLA is what protects the vendor and keeps them from unlimited liability. An SLA that says that they "have to start work" in 24 hours only means that they have to pay whatever stipulated penalty there is. If that penalty is, say, $5 but the line makes $500 profit and it would cost $200 to fix, the SLA makes it make sense to leave the line broken as the penalty isn't enough to justify fixing it, but forces the customer to be unable to turn it off.

                          Wow I didnt know that (Never really had to deal with that side before). Thanks for the clarification Spiceworks Jesus!

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            SLAs vary a lot. But assume if you didn't write it and didn't spend a fortune on an attorney to review it.... That the SLA protects the vendor, not the client. A typical SLA only serves to block customers from dropping a vendor while limiting the vendor's liability. SLAs are what lock customers in to broken services.

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