Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28
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@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
I have noticed that there are a quite a few threads on something not working properly on Fedora 28. I guess it is just that it seems to be the preferred OS and people are using it more than others.
Yeah there's a real love affair for Fedora here but in my case, when I couldn't get this running on Fedora and was able to get it working flawlessly on Ubuntu, guess what OS it's running on right now. Many guides for setting this up on Ubuntu out there.
Are there? I feel like I looked at the time and in order to get it working you have to drop to Ubuntu LTS, same as dropping to CentOS from Fedora. I thought Ubuntu was plagued by the current versions not working the same as Fedora/CentOS are.
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@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
I have noticed that there are a quite a few threads on something not working properly on Fedora 28. I guess it is just that it seems to be the preferred OS and people are using it more than others.
Likely, that and when there is a preferred OS, people start using it where it is not appropriate as well, making the numbers swell even more.
But you'll notice some of these threads are also full of "and it doesn't work on Docker, either" and similar.
True. Isn't docker also related/connected to the host OS in some ways? I mean, not completely autonomous?
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@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
I have noticed that there are a quite a few threads on something not working properly on Fedora 28. I guess it is just that it seems to be the preferred OS and people are using it more than others.
Likely, that and when there is a preferred OS, people start using it where it is not appropriate as well, making the numbers swell even more.
But you'll notice some of these threads are also full of "and it doesn't work on Docker, either" and similar.
True. Isn't docker also related/connected to the host OS in some ways? I mean, not completely autonomous?
It's not supposed to be. It's connected to the kernel, but not the OS. It's Type-C virtualization, if the OS impacts it, it's not working.
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@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
I have noticed that there are a quite a few threads on something not working properly on Fedora 28. I guess it is just that it seems to be the preferred OS and people are using it more than others.
Yeah there's a real love affair for Fedora here but in my case, when I couldn't get this running on Fedora and was able to get it working flawlessly on Ubuntu, guess what OS it's running on right now. Many guides for setting this up on Ubuntu out there.
Are there? I feel like I looked at the time and in order to get it working you have to drop to Ubuntu LTS, same as dropping to CentOS from Fedora. I thought Ubuntu was plagued by the current versions not working the same as Fedora/CentOS are.
Yeah, this is the guide that I used and was finally able to set this up.
https://chasewright.com/2017/08/01/guacamole-with-mysql-on-ubuntu/
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@scottalanmiller - There was a discussion about it vs containers last week, or so. I couldn't remember that exact phrase, but that is what I got from the discussion.
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@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
I have noticed that there are a quite a few threads on something not working properly on Fedora 28. I guess it is just that it seems to be the preferred OS and people are using it more than others.
Yeah there's a real love affair for Fedora here but in my case, when I couldn't get this running on Fedora and was able to get it working flawlessly on Ubuntu, guess what OS it's running on right now. Many guides for setting this up on Ubuntu out there.
Are there? I feel like I looked at the time and in order to get it working you have to drop to Ubuntu LTS, same as dropping to CentOS from Fedora. I thought Ubuntu was plagued by the current versions not working the same as Fedora/CentOS are.
Yeah, this is the guide that I used and was finally able to set this up.
https://chasewright.com/2017/08/01/guacamole-with-mysql-on-ubuntu/
Right, that's not "working on Ubuntu", that's "working on old Ubuntu". It works on "old Fedora", too. If we were willing to treat Fedora poorly, like we often are willing to treat Ubuntu, it would work equally.
I think people are often way more forgiving of Ubuntu that Fedora/CentOS and it makes it look like things work in one, just because the standards are lower.
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@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller - There was a discussion about it vs containers last week, or so. I couldn't remember that exact phrase, but that is what I got from the discussion.
It IS a container, it can't be vs containers. Docker is a form of containerization.
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@scottalanmiller - Sorry, I meant another form of containers. I need to find that thread now.
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@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
I have noticed that there are a quite a few threads on something not working properly on Fedora 28. I guess it is just that it seems to be the preferred OS and people are using it more than others.
Yeah there's a real love affair for Fedora here but in my case, when I couldn't get this running on Fedora and was able to get it working flawlessly on Ubuntu, guess what OS it's running on right now. Many guides for setting this up on Ubuntu out there.
Are there? I feel like I looked at the time and in order to get it working you have to drop to Ubuntu LTS, same as dropping to CentOS from Fedora. I thought Ubuntu was plagued by the current versions not working the same as Fedora/CentOS are.
Yeah, this is the guide that I used and was finally able to set this up.
https://chasewright.com/2017/08/01/guacamole-with-mysql-on-ubuntu/
Right, that's not "working on Ubuntu", that's "working on old Ubuntu". It works on "old Fedora", too. If we were willing to treat Fedora poorly, like we often are willing to treat Ubuntu, it would work equally.
I think people are often way more forgiving of Ubuntu that Fedora/CentOS and it makes it look like things work in one, just because the standards are lower.
If you actually read the post, there are instructions for getting it to work on newer Ubuntu. While I haven't bothered trying it out yet since I just don't have the time, I definitely plan on doing the install on 18.04 as soon as I can. I'm certainly no Linux expert so I'm hoping I can muddle through this on 18.04 but I have no doubt you'd have a much easier time.
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@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
I have noticed that there are a quite a few threads on something not working properly on Fedora 28. I guess it is just that it seems to be the preferred OS and people are using it more than others.
Yeah there's a real love affair for Fedora here but in my case, when I couldn't get this running on Fedora and was able to get it working flawlessly on Ubuntu, guess what OS it's running on right now. Many guides for setting this up on Ubuntu out there.
Are there? I feel like I looked at the time and in order to get it working you have to drop to Ubuntu LTS, same as dropping to CentOS from Fedora. I thought Ubuntu was plagued by the current versions not working the same as Fedora/CentOS are.
Yeah, this is the guide that I used and was finally able to set this up.
https://chasewright.com/2017/08/01/guacamole-with-mysql-on-ubuntu/
Right, that's not "working on Ubuntu", that's "working on old Ubuntu". It works on "old Fedora", too. If we were willing to treat Fedora poorly, like we often are willing to treat Ubuntu, it would work equally.
I think people are often way more forgiving of Ubuntu that Fedora/CentOS and it makes it look like things work in one, just because the standards are lower.
If you actually read the post, there are instructions for getting it to work on newer Ubuntu. While I haven't bothered trying it out yet since I just don't have the time, I definitely plan on doing the install on 18.04 as soon as I can. I'm certainly no Linux expert so I'm hoping I can muddle through this on 18.04 but I have no doubt you'd have a much easier time.
That's where Fedora is. 28 works, but with lots of muddling through to replace the compiler. The issue is Guac doesn't work with modern compilers, so all modern systems are affected.
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@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller - Sorry, I meant another form of containers. I need to find that thread now.
LXC is the main alternative (on which Docker was initially based.)
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@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@nashbrydges said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@wrx7m said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
I have noticed that there are a quite a few threads on something not working properly on Fedora 28. I guess it is just that it seems to be the preferred OS and people are using it more than others.
Yeah there's a real love affair for Fedora here but in my case, when I couldn't get this running on Fedora and was able to get it working flawlessly on Ubuntu, guess what OS it's running on right now. Many guides for setting this up on Ubuntu out there.
Are there? I feel like I looked at the time and in order to get it working you have to drop to Ubuntu LTS, same as dropping to CentOS from Fedora. I thought Ubuntu was plagued by the current versions not working the same as Fedora/CentOS are.
Yeah, this is the guide that I used and was finally able to set this up.
https://chasewright.com/2017/08/01/guacamole-with-mysql-on-ubuntu/
Right, that's not "working on Ubuntu", that's "working on old Ubuntu". It works on "old Fedora", too. If we were willing to treat Fedora poorly, like we often are willing to treat Ubuntu, it would work equally.
I think people are often way more forgiving of Ubuntu that Fedora/CentOS and it makes it look like things work in one, just because the standards are lower.
If you actually read the post, there are instructions for getting it to work on newer Ubuntu. While I haven't bothered trying it out yet since I just don't have the time, I definitely plan on doing the install on 18.04 as soon as I can. I'm certainly no Linux expert so I'm hoping I can muddle through this on 18.04 but I have no doubt you'd have a much easier time.
That's where Fedora is. 28 works, but with lots of muddling through to replace the compiler. The issue is Guac doesn't work with modern compilers, so all modern systems are affected.
See, you're outside my realm of knowledge here which is why I come and hang out here for a while...to learn.
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So in short... no one has an answer to the topic
that's sad news. I will keep trying to see if i can get GCC 6 installed on Fedora 28 and post my results if i succeed. -
@xylems said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
So in short... no one has an answer to the topic
that's sad news. I will keep trying to see if i can get GCC 6 installed on Fedora 28 and post my results if i succeed.Pretty much.
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@scottalanmiller As it turns out this issue has already been resolved by the Guacamole Dev team, however instead of releasing it for 0.9.4 they are fixing it in the upcoming 1.0.0 release.
They do not have a date, however, after reading through a few forums, it seems that most of the bugs for the 1.0.0 release are fixed and they are just updating documentation at this point. Perhaps we will see version 1.0.0 in the near future.
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@xylems said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@scottalanmiller As it turns out this issue has already been resolved by the Guacamole Dev team, however instead of releasing it for 0.9.4 they are fixing it in the upcoming 1.0.0 release.
They do not have a date, however, after reading through a few forums, it seems that most of the bugs for the 1.0.0 release are fixed and they are just updating documentation at this point. Perhaps we will see version 1.0.0 in the near future.
One can hope.
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Maybe I missed it. Why aren't you using the guacd provided by dnf?
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@stacksofplates said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
Maybe I missed it. Why aren't you using the guacd provided by dnf?
And the version (0.9.13) is not that old too.
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@stacksofplates said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
Maybe I missed it. Why aren't you using the guacd provided by dnf?
Does it work? I thought we tested it and it didn't work.
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@scottalanmiller said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
@stacksofplates said in Errors Building Guacamole Server on Fedora 28:
Maybe I missed it. Why aren't you using the guacd provided by dnf?
Does it work? I thought we tested it and it didn't work.
I've never used this. Just saw it was in the repos. I'll give it a shot.
