Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Which means, you have a very finite amount of fuel before your stuck (somewhere) hopefully with fewer zombies than from where you came.
It's a very, very long way. Trains are very fuel efficient and carry and insane amount of fuel and are designed to go anywhere without refueling with huge loads, you'd not take a big load, just a really light one at really efficient speeds so the fuel would easily last ten times as long as normal. And fuel for trains is along the tracks, so generally easy to get to.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
But presumably the zombies would just follow you for as long as there are tracks..
Not Walking Dead zombies. They dont understand tracks nor do they follow once the site and sound goes away.
This is true, but zombies do just roam....
I would guess that they'd just roam forwards along the easy path.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
I would imagine that if a group could block the tracks, that they'd essentially would've won the battle. Besides against the zombies.
If you block it with people, you're toast. If you block it with cars, you need a lot of them. A LOT of them. If you block it with buidings and stuff, the train can see it from a long way away. It's very, very hard to surprise a train because of long, straight tracks.
Trains have derailed for way less than a car on the tracks. I do not think this is a promising solution.
Sailboat is my vote for long long term.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
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@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Trains have derailed for way less than a car on the tracks. I do not think this is a promising solution.
Only fast ones that don't apply here. Slow ones can move nearly anything without derailing.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
This is true, but zombies do just roam....
I would guess that they'd just roam forwards along the easy path.
Which would not be tracks, those are actually hard to follow because of the ties.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.
Diesel shelf life 1 year
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf
edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.
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@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.
Diesel shelf life 1 year
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf
edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.
Weird, my car has no problems going longer than that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.
Diesel shelf life 1 year
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf
edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.
Weird, my car has no problems going longer than that.
Change your fuel filter soon heheh
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.
Diesel shelf life 1 year
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf
edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.
Weird, my car has no problems going longer than that.
I've also had varied results with long term fuel storage as well, it usually can last much longer, but I think perhaps it can be bad for the engine.
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Yeah I'm constantly hearing about how people leave gas in the fuel can, and it turns into jello....
I'd very much doubt that it would last decades or centuries as well..
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
How quickly can a train turn around..... or even reverse away from a blocked path? (honestly asking)
About thirty seconds. Nowhere nearly as fast as a car, but fast. Remember they are electric drive so crazy torque. And they have a LOT of traction. So they can stop on a dime at 8-10 mph with a light load. Fast enough that someone trying to catch you would have a really, really tough time. Especially if you control the train, the firepower from the train, have the high ground lookout of the train and control the horn to call zombies to you whenever you want.
Uhm - thirty seconds? how long is your train? what is it's displacement? A model train maybe,.. not a twenty-five car train,..
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
So diesel, or overhead electric cables. . .
Those are the two options. Overhead electric is mostly just NYC.
Whcih would go down with the grid.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
What is the shelf life on diesel?
It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.
Not without treatment.
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@gjacobse I was thinking that as well, if it were just the engine I could see this....
But you'd want to have several cars to live in / store supplies on.
So at a minimum 2 cars, average 5 probably.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse I was thinking that as well, if it were just the engine I could see this....
But you'd want to have several cars to live in / store supplies on.
So at a minimum 2 cars, average 5 probably.
How about start with 5 full of fuel, then add some to live in, store crap in...
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How Long Does It Take a Train to Stop?
Trains can't stop quickly or swerve. The average freight train is about 1 to 1¼ miles in length (90 to 120 rail cars). When it's moving at 55 miles an hour, it can take a mile or more to stop after the locomotive engineer fully applies the emergency brake. An 8-car passenger train moving at 80 miles an hour needs about a mile to stop. How does this compare to other vehicles?
According to the National Safety Council:
- A lightweight passenger car traveling at 55 miles an hour can stop in about 200 feet in an emergency—under perfect conditions—that is, if tires and brakes are in good condition and the road is dry.
- A commercial van or bus will need about 230 feet to stop.
- A commercial truck/trailer can stop in about 300 feet—that's the length of a football field.
- A light rail train requires about 600 feet to stop—the length of two football fields.
Compared to this, the average freight train we mentioned above traveling at 55 miles an hour may take the length of about 18 football fields to stop.
Trains can't swerve—they can only follow the track. The only thing the engineer can do is apply the emergency brake.It's Closer and Faster Than You Think!
In the same way that airplanes can seem to move slowly, your eyes can play a trick on you when a train is approaching—an optical illusion that makes a train seem farther away and moving more slowly than it really is. Don't take chances—it's easy to misjudge a train's speed and its distance, especially at night. If you see a train, just wait. -
@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse I was thinking that as well, if it were just the engine I could see this....
But you'd want to have several cars to live in / store supplies on.
So at a minimum 2 cars, average 5 probably.
How about start with 5 full of fuel, then add some to live in, store crap in...
And you think there is time to line up 5 fuel cars to an engine and get away....
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Big. Simple. Sailboat.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse I was thinking that as well, if it were just the engine I could see this....
But you'd want to have several cars to live in / store supplies on.
So at a minimum 2 cars, average 5 probably.
How about start with 5 full of fuel, then add some to live in, store crap in...
And you think there is time to line up 5 fuel cars to an engine and get away....
You do not want to carry all of your fuel with you. least you and your train burn in a fiery wreck.
