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    Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @tonyshowoff
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      @tonyshowoff said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

      @thwr said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

      @tonyshowoff said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

      @thwr said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

      @gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

      @thwr said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

      @gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

      Stepping back to some fundamental items:

      • Generating Power using combustion
        ** Makes noise and would draws attention.
        ** Requires Fuel of some kind. Petrol products 'expire' and are limited in supply.
        ** Requires Fuel storage - which can be a hazard and liability, and difficult to relocate.

      • Generating Power using Solar
        ** Requires space for panels.
        ** Has to be 'banked' for poor solar exposure days (clouds, darkness)
        ** Has to be converted to run AC devices

      You can generate fuel to run a generator, but it is a process - needs time, resources, and space.

      There are other ways of generating electricity, using steam power; either solar based or fuel based - fuel being petrol or biomass... again - needs space and generates some noise.

      Keep in mind that solar panels (photovoltaic cells) will degrade over time, same is true for the batteries. They will degrade even faster. While solar panels are OK for like 20 or 30 years, you will need to replace the batteries every 5 to 10 years. Think about your UPS for example. There are technologies that let you store power in a mechanical way, like a flywheel generator, but this may be hard to find.

      So something nuclear would be better, IMHO.

      Nuclear is better until.... it goes nuclear...

      Rather being the dark... They did it in the olden days..

      But hey, if things go south you can read in the dark - without any light 😉 The nice green glow will be enough.

      I went to school for nuclear science, specifically for making nuclear weapons, and I can assure you that you can indeed read by the light of Uranium, if you have enough.

      Not for long maybe, but yes, that works.

      Well, radiation exposure works differently than commonly believed, in fact if you're conceived and born in a highly radioactive environment, you're actually extremely resistant to it (by that I mean a place radioactive as a result of human activity, not the surface of Mars, for example). It's why claims that Chernobyl would basically be sterile and kill everything for the next quadrillion years turned out to be total nonsense, and in fact people are already moving back there, animals are fine, plants are fine, but yes they do contain more radioactivity.

      Radiation also doesn't cause deformity in the same way commonly claimed, it usually just causes sterility (not to say it can't, it certainly can deform). Additionally, the concept of nuclear winter is also unlikely, considering it was made up by Carl Sagan who was a good astronomer, but in every other field was always highly alarmist as well as pretty ignorant. It likely would be a nuclear autumn.

      Not to down play this at all, literally billions would die, but long term humanity would absolutely survive, and life would go on.

      Interesting foot note, @andyw @Dominica and I all used to be next door neighbours to the Sagans.

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      • tonyshowoffT
        tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller That's pretty wild. I once got in a fist fight with him in a men's room.

        I'm lying I never met him.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Stupid thought along the lines of the copper door knobs....

          How come there aren't any bronze or copper toilet seats if they are this effective at killing germs...

          You could easily design a heating system for them...

          Maybe I should start a business / patient...

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

            Stupid thought along the lines of the copper door knobs....

            How come there aren't any bronze or copper toilet seats if they are this effective at killing germs...

            You could easily design a heating system for them...

            Maybe I should start a business / patient...

            Well, you've got at least two people I know of here that could design the electronics for you. I could even make it a wifi connected toilet seat.... you know, for the marketing.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @tonyshowoff
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              @tonyshowoff said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

              @scottalanmiller That's pretty wild. I once got in a fist fight with him in a men's room.

              I'm lying I never met him.

              I never met him either, he was dead. But his wife lived on one side of us and his son one house past her. She was directly next door but was rarely home.

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              • NicN
                Nic @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                Stupid thought along the lines of the copper door knobs....

                How come there aren't any bronze or copper toilet seats if they are this effective at killing germs...

                You could easily design a heating system for them...

                Maybe I should start a business / patient...

                Toilet seats aren't actually a big vector for germs. They tend to get cleaned more often than most other surfaces. Studies show that your keyboard has more poop germs on it than your toilet seat:
                http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Germs/story?id=4774746
                Maybe you should be looking at copper keyboards 🙂

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                  Stupid thought along the lines of the copper door knobs....

                  How come there aren't any bronze or copper toilet seats if they are this effective at killing germs...

                  You could easily design a heating system for them...

                  Maybe I should start a business / patient...

                  Because... cold.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                    Stupid thought along the lines of the copper door knobs....

                    How come there aren't any bronze or copper toilet seats if they are this effective at killing germs...

                    You could easily design a heating system for them...

                    Maybe I should start a business / patient...

                    Because... cold.

                    Obviously you'd need a heating element / maybe a wifi unit to help improve the experience

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                    • gjacobseG
                      gjacobse @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                      Stupid thought along the lines of the copper door knobs....

                      How come there aren't any bronze or copper toilet seats if they are this effective at killing germs...

                      You could easily design a heating system for them...

                      Maybe I should start a business / patient...

                      Just don't make them from cooper... since it's one of the most stolen items (wire, plumbing) in the area...

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @gjacobse
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                        @gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                        Stupid thought along the lines of the copper door knobs....

                        How come there aren't any bronze or copper toilet seats if they are this effective at killing germs...

                        You could easily design a heating system for them...

                        Maybe I should start a business / patient...

                        Just don't make them from cooper... since it's one of the most stolen items (wire, plumbing) in the area...

                        Hrm, aluminium maybe? Still kinda valuable.

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                        • tonyshowoffT
                          tonyshowoff @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                          @gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                          Stupid thought along the lines of the copper door knobs....

                          How come there aren't any bronze or copper toilet seats if they are this effective at killing germs...

                          You could easily design a heating system for them...

                          Maybe I should start a business / patient...

                          Just don't make them from cooper... since it's one of the most stolen items (wire, plumbing) in the area...

                          Hrm, aluminium maybe? Still kinda valuable.

                          Maybe gold, they're so valuable nobody would steal them.

                          I'm just following the same logic as "the password is so easy nobody could guess it."

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 Aluminum doesn't have the same germ killing capabilities does it?

                            You'd have to use copper or bronze for the benefit of natural germ fighting.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              It's copper and silver that kill the bacteria. Other metals might actually encourage it.

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                              • tonyshowoffT
                                tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                It's copper and silver that kill the bacteria. Other metals might actually encourage it.

                                Iron certainly does encourage it, especially as it oxidises. Don't forget to get your tetanus shot.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @tonyshowoff
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                                  @tonyshowoff said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                  It's copper and silver that kill the bacteria. Other metals might actually encourage it.

                                  Iron certainly does encourage it, especially as it oxidises. Don't forget to get your tetanus shot.

                                  I don't think copper / silver would require you to need a tetanus shot would it? It doesn't rust, promotes the death of germs etc.

                                  I get one regularly to ensure I have no issues, but still.

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                                  • tonyshowoffT
                                    tonyshowoff @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                    @tonyshowoff said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                    It's copper and silver that kill the bacteria. Other metals might actually encourage it.

                                    Iron certainly does encourage it, especially as it oxidises. Don't forget to get your tetanus shot.

                                    I don't think copper / silver would require you to need a tetanus shot would it? It doesn't rust, promotes the death of germs etc.

                                    I get one regularly to ensure I have no issues, but still.

                                    No

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                                    • MattSpellerM
                                      MattSpeller @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                      @tonyshowoff said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                      It's copper and silver that kill the bacteria. Other metals might actually encourage it.

                                      Iron certainly does encourage it, especially as it oxidises. Don't forget to get your tetanus shot.

                                      I don't think copper / silver would require you to need a tetanus shot would it? It doesn't rust, promotes the death of germs etc.

                                      I get one regularly to ensure I have no issues, but still.

                                      I'm wearing (work issued) shirt full of silver threads. Highly highly recommend.

                                      "SILVERESCENT® TECHNOLOGY

                                      Powered by X-STATIC®, it inhibits the growth of odour-causing bacteria on the top"

                                      http://shop.lululemon.com/p/mens-ss-tops/RAD-Short-Sleeve/_/prod2040082?rcnt=3&N=8ac&cnt=21&color=LM3EC9S_1966

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
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                                        @MattSpeller At $70 a t-shirt I think I'd rather just shower every day....

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                                        • art_of_shredA
                                          art_of_shred Banned
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                                          Are zombies in any way like vampires? You can kill a vampire with a silver stake or bullet, so can one ward off zombies with a silver-threaded shirt? Might make them even more worth it at $70 per...

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @art_of_shred
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                                            @art_of_shred said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                            Are zombies in any way like vampires? You can kill a vampire with a silver stake or bullet, so can one ward off zombies with a silver-threaded shirt? Might make them even more worth it at $70 per...

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