Newbies, love 'em or hate 'em they are the next gen...
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@DenisKelley said:
No offense, but never really saw "medical grade" PCs in these places. Not really a hospital, but I did manage a 3 site assisted living facility and there was nothing fancy like that.
I have done hospital consulting since the 1990s and everything that we use are just normal PCs. I'm not sure what would qualify as medical grade. We used tablets too, starting in 2000 or so.
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And a Spiceworks topic on it:
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/408660-medical-grade-computer-equipment-in-the-or -
If you're in an ER touching a screen with bloodied hands, I'd like to know it was going to be safer than a lenovo all in one with a sunk in bezel :-P.
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The only medical grade I remember was the one that goes "bing."
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I have to agree with the rest here, medical grade is mostly a joke. Sure today they have some antibacterial plastics, but I don't really consider this a real issue. Wipe the materials down when you're done and you should be fine.
Now if you're worried about blood getting stuck in hard to clean places, OK fine, buy a unit that does have them or at least a few of them as possible. But if the customer wants something and won't listen to your suggestion, sell him what he wants and move on.
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The hospitals around here all have regular PCs on carts with Saran Wrap taped over the keyboards.
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@RAM. said:
If you're in an ER touching a screen with bloodied hands, I'd like to know it was going to be safer than a lenovo all in one with a sunk in bezel :-P.
We built touchless interfaces for our systems used by people covered in nasty stuff.
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@Dashrender said:
I have to agree with the rest here, medical grade is mostly a joke. Sure today they have some antibacterial plastics, but I don't really consider this a real issue. Wipe the materials down when you're done and you should be fine.
That's all I have ever seen too. Only on instruments that are in a surgical setting does this really become an issue, and even then you start to see more stainless steel or other metals used.
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@RAM. To what I think your original point is, yeah there's some arrogance with someone that's new. I think we all have been there, maybe not long but it's common. Some never grow out of it (former boss I had called me an idiot to my face, even though he was proven wrong and more than one person verified I was correct, his ego couldn't handle being wrong.)
With experience comes wisdom.
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Yes. Stainless is the real answer. Normal computer in sealed stainless shells.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yes. Stainless is the real answer. Normal computer in sealed stainless shells.
Copper would actually be better because it's naturally antimicrobial.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yes. Stainless is the real answer. Normal computer in sealed stainless shells.
Copper would actually be better because it's naturally antimicrobial.
True but it's prone to a higher corrosion rate than stainless steel is.
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@Bill-Kindle said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yes. Stainless is the real answer. Normal computer in sealed stainless shells.
Copper would actually be better because it's naturally antimicrobial.
True but it's prone to a higher corrosion rate than stainless steel is.
Yeah as I was writing that.. this was the one thing I was wondering might be an issue?
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Copper corrodes quickly and is quite expensive and easy to damage.
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and now I realize I wrote the wrong metal... I meant brass!
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Oh brass! That makes more sense, lol.
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I think you get people like this in every field.
I've seen it in Insurance/Medical/Travel.
Depends on the person, you will notice that they normally generally have issues, doesn't matter if it's authority/ranking/what ever.
I still classify myself as an IT newbie, been doing it professionally for 11 years.
Sometimes, you do get these arrogant little so and so's, but they might be excellent at some certain skills, which you might not be.
It's about guiding people accordingly and making the most out of who they are, kindly educating them that there are certain elements about them that can't continue.
Sometimes, there are also these people that you go out your way to really help, support them, sometimes without them realising, ensuring they get looked after. Then they think they are god knows what, throw it back in your face and in some kind of fashion aren't faithful/are backstabbers, so watch out for those
Nevertheless, best of luck
