Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?


  • Service Provider

    Any conversation that follows a topic with this name is inane and pointless. It's click bait for the lowest common denominator. Don't engage.



  • So... we shouldn't post in this topic?


  • Service Provider

    @coliver said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    So... we shouldn't post in this topic?

    Correct



  • But why should we not post, isn't click bait a good thing at times?


  • Service Provider

    @DustinB3403 said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    But why should we not post, isn't click bait a good thing at times?

    Not when it is a completely pointless subject.



  • You mean nobody wants to discuss inane marketing terms?

    I like you all, I'd buy you each a beer.



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  • Are we ready to trust a thread posted by @scottalanmiller ? click here to find out.



  • That fog machine one is pretty damn funny.


  • Service Provider

    @DustinB3403 Can't imagine it would be too good for the servers, though.



  • Yeah... I imagine that the added humidity would mess them up pretty well.



  • Nope. Not ready. If it can't rain reliably in the correct season, then no, I'm not trusting no damn cloud.



  • @nadnerB said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    Nope. Not ready. If it can't rain reliably in the correct season, then no, I'm not trusting no damn cloud.

    Better trust science: Silver iodide, the bringer of rain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainmaking


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  • Is this the reason that this topic was made?


  • Service Provider

    No, that was not the reason 🙂



  • More click-bait....


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  • @aaron said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    @DustinB3403 I get a 404

    Yeah the mods there deleted the post.

    Sorry folks.



  • Here's the wall of text if anyone is interested.

    Cloud Vs Dedicated: Which is better hosting for a startup? Most of the time when hosting providers refers to Cloud hosting, they tend to leave out the fact that Cloud is primarily built on hardware-based dedicated server(s) infrastructure. The strength and resiliency of your cloud infrastructure depends on its underlying core hardware and the network where it’s hosted. For the purpose of this discussion, I am going to stick to the definition of cloud as an off-premise solution built on a cluster of dedicated servers where resource pooling/sharing exist through virtualization. Cloud is not an instance of a virtual machine built on a single dedicated server. Why should a startup go with cloud hosting? I would hope that any startup company took the time to vet out their technology budget at minimum against the odds. Although financially prepared, the “unknown” factor remains in the growth of the company to scale higher than expected or simply fail. If a company was to quickly grow, this implies that resources need to be allocated with little to no downtime in order to satisfy demand. Cloud answers the question of uncertainty by allowing users to add on the fly in the event of significant growth. You are not limited to a single machine and its resources. The sky is the limit if you choose a good platform that promotes business agility and continuity. The last thing you need is having to shut down your business in order to increase capacity. This is exactly what VMware the #1 leading virtualization software evangelizes. Focus on your day to day business and don’t let technology be the reason for failure. It’s possible that a startup may not have the budget to hire a CTO to build out clusters and load balance solutions along with troubleshooting on-site internal technology. Many cloud providers have now made a Virtual CTO available to their customers. Someone who works along-side the organization to address all their technology needs and promote productivity and business continuity for a fraction of the cost. Get rid of your local server room, cut cost in half! Why would a startup go with a dedicated server hosting? Before there was cloud, there were dedicated servers. Hardware-based environment supersedes cloud! All cloud implementation and design need to take in consideration its underlying hardware: processing power, RAM capacity and drives involved. That’s good engineering. Depending on the nature of what’s being hosted, a dedicated server fully dedicated to a single entity or organization may be a compliance requirement. FISMA (Government), PCI-DSS (Credit card), HIPAA (Health) may require that a single tenant solution be deployed as opposed to adopting a cloud infrastructure that’s also housing other organizations. While a Private Cloud infrastructure may sometimes satisfy the above, the dedicated world truly promotes logical and physical security. Back in the days, we use to think that servers are expensive, but now, cost is starting to come down to the cloud level. A single server can now house multiple modular nodes like Microclouds by SuperMicro making it convenient for organization to host all their IT infrastructure on a single chassis. How about situations where money-hungry providers tend to oversell their cloud infrastructure? How many other users are you truly sharing resources with? What’s your uplink connection to the internet? (Usually unknown). What type of security risks are you exposing your organization to? The list goes on and on. Conclusion: In order to run your business the best way possible, it’s important to understand the implications on both side of the hosting platform. While cloud might be the easiest to scale with, dedicated servers can help address some security issues. Don’t fall in the trap of moving to the cloud just because the mass is doing so and ignoring your specific business requirements. Not all size fit all. The My-Company Cloud difference : What sets My-Company Cloud aside from the competition? With the proliferation of Cloud Services across the internet and business verticals, there’s high level of confusion and panic when it comes to selecting the right type of cloud for your organization. It’s crucial to work with a provider who understands best cloud deployment practices while putting the customer in the driver seat. Why should anyone choose the My-Company Cloud platform? My-Company shared or public cloud offering is built on a cluster of Enterprise servers connected at 10 gbps redundant across the board where resources are not over-utilized. Be careful and ask questions about to the cloud you are about to purchase because most of the competition would sell a VPS instead of a cloud. My-Company cloud is not limited to a single location! Chicago, Los Angeles and Washington DC all have cloud offering to cater to the needs of clients looking to setup geographically redundant solutions. My-Company cloud is not confined to a single virtualization platform. Our engineers have the ability to think outside of the box and deploy solutions like : Proxmox, Vmware, Citrix Xen unlike the competition where you have to use what’s offered. When setting up a private cloud solution, My-Company does not share the network or the server nodes with any other clients. The entire infrastructure is dedicated to your organization. Because of the above, My-Company continues to position itself as the mothership of all things custom when it comes to the cloud. Reach out to our cloud experts today for free consultation services about your project.

    Cloud Vs Dedicated: Which is better hosting for a startup?

    Most of the time when hosting providers refers to Cloud hosting, they tend to leave out the fact that Cloud is primarily built on hardware-based dedicated server(s) infrastructure. The strength and resiliency of your cloud infrastructure depends on its underlying core hardware and the network where it’s hosted.

    For the purpose of this discussion, I am going to stick to the definition of cloud as an off-premise solution built on a cluster of dedicated servers where resource pooling/sharing exist through virtualization. Cloud is not an instance of a virtual machine built on a single dedicated server.

    Why should a startup go with cloud hosting?

    I would hope that any startup company took the time to vet out their technology budget at minimum against the odds. Although financially prepared, the “unknown” factor remains in the growth of the company to scale higher than expected or simply fail. If a company was to quickly grow, this implies that resources need to be allocated with little to no downtime in order to satisfy demand. Cloud answers the question of uncertainty by allowing users to add on the fly in the event of significant growth. You are not limited to a single machine and its resources. The sky is the limit if you choose a good platform that promotes business agility and continuity. The last thing you need is having to shut down your business in order to increase capacity. This is exactly what VMware the #1 leading virtualization software evangelizes. Focus on your day to day business and don’t let technology be the reason for failure.

    It’s possible that a startup may not have the budget to hire a CTO to build out clusters and load balance solutions along with troubleshooting on-site internal technology. Many cloud providers have now made a Virtual CTO available to their customers. Someone who works along-side the organization to address all their technology needs and promote productivity and business continuity for a fraction of the cost. Get rid of your local server room, cut cost in half!

    Why would a startup go with a dedicated server hosting?

    Before there was cloud, there were dedicated servers. Hardware-based environment supersedes cloud! All cloud implementation and design need to take in consideration its underlying hardware: processing power, RAM capacity and drives involved. That’s good engineering.

    Depending on the nature of what’s being hosted, a dedicated server fully dedicated to a single entity or organization may be a compliance requirement. FISMA (Government), PCI-DSS (Credit card), HIPAA (Health) may require that a single tenant solution be deployed as opposed to adopting a cloud infrastructure that’s also housing other organizations.

    While a Private Cloud infrastructure may sometimes satisfy the above, the dedicated world truly promotes logical and physical security. Back in the days, we use to think that servers are expensive, but now, cost is starting to come down to the cloud level. A single server can now house multiple modular nodes like Microclouds by SuperMicro making it convenient for organization to host all their IT infrastructure on a single chassis.

    How about situations where money-hungry providers tend to oversell their cloud infrastructure? How many other users are you truly sharing resources with? What’s your uplink connection to the internet? (Usually unknown). What type of security risks are you exposing your organization to? The list goes on and on.

    Conclusion:

    In order to run your business the best way possible, it’s important to understand the implications on both side of the hosting platform. While cloud might be the easiest to scale with, dedicated servers can help address some security issues. Don’t fall in the trap of moving to the cloud just because the mass is doing so and ignoring your specific business requirements. Not all size fit all.

    The My-Company Cloud difference :

    What sets My-Company Cloud aside from the competition?

    With the proliferation of Cloud Services across the internet and business verticals, there’s high level of confusion and panic when it comes to selecting the right type of cloud for your organization. It’s crucial to work with a provider who understands best cloud deployment practices while putting the customer in the driver seat. Why should anyone choose the My-Company Cloud platform?

    My-Company shared or public cloud offering is built on a cluster of Enterprise servers connected at 10 gbps redundant across the board where resources are not over-utilized. Be careful and ask questions about to the cloud you are about to purchase because most of the competition would sell a VPS instead of a cloud. My-Company cloud is not limited to a single location! Chicago, Los Angeles and Washington DC all have cloud offering to cater to the needs of clients looking to setup geographically redundant solutions. My-Company cloud is not confined to a single virtualization platform. Our engineers have the ability to think outside of the box and deploy solutions like : Proxmox, Vmware, Citrix Xen unlike the competition where you have to use what’s offered. When setting up a private cloud solution, My-Company does not share the network or the server nodes with any other clients. The entire infrastructure is dedicated to your organization.

    Because of the above, My-Company continues to position itself as the mothership of all things custom when it comes to the cloud. Reach out to our cloud experts today for free consultation services about your project.



  • @DustinB3403 said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    Here's the wall of text if anyone is interested.

    snip

    Is that like the navy seal copypasta or something? Damned if I'm going to read all that goop.



  • @MattSpeller said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    @DustinB3403 said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    Here's the wall of text if anyone is interested.

    snip

    Is that like the navy seal copypasta or something? Damned if I'm going to read all that goop.

    I soon realized that indenting it was like ripping my own toenails off with a flathead screw driver.

    So I un indented it.


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  • @DustinB3403 Oh, My eyes! Can't believe you forced me to look at that twice!
    😧



  • @aaron said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    Oh it was advertising then?

    Yep, should probably remove the company name so as not to send anyone his way.





  • @Danp said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    @aaron said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    Oh it was advertising then?

    Yep, should probably remove the company name so as not to send anyone his way.

    Leave the company name, so we know who to avoid.


  • Service Provider

    @RojoLoco said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    @Danp said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    @aaron said in Are We Ready To Trust the Cloud?:

    Oh it was advertising then?

    Yep, should probably remove the company name so as not to send anyone his way.

    Leave the company name, so we know who to avoid.

    Almost always a good idea. We know that people post illogical garbage, nothing to be learned there. But knowing what company is pushing the cloud term without even knowing what cloud is is valuable to know who are incompetent.



  • I'm suspicious that this was a thread by Intel, perhaps?


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