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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said

      Many of the updates are cumulative, do you don't have to install them all from scratch.

      That was I was discussing in my thread from a while back, that there is a specific order to do them

      The conclusion of that thread was that XO was smart enough to do it and should always be used, but if you don't have XO running, what you found is the best alternative I think.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
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        I was a little confused about how exactly to recover from a XS boot failure. Obviously the way you did it was able to get the VMs back up and running. That is good to know.

        There is also a methodology to backup the entire XS system, including the VM metadata. This process is described here...
        http://techblog.danielpellarini.com/sysadmin/steps-to-take-to-restore-xenserver-from-backup/

        In another linked article, he explains what is backup up in the metadata as:
        "And by VM metadata I mean what drives are connected to what VM, the name of the drive, the network interfaces etc."

        I guess if you had a lot of custom settings for your VMs (tags, etc.) or a lot of stuff listed as metadata, it might be good to do such a backup.

        This is something I am still a bit unclear on.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said in Today is the day from Hell!:

          I guess if you had a lot of custom settings for your VMs (tags, etc.) or a lot of stuff listed as metadata, it might be good to do such a backup.

          This is something I am still a bit unclear on.

          Or just have like 20+ VMs (hell I'd want that at more than 5 for sure). You don't want to be guessing what VDI (I just feel icky typing that) - I mean virtual disks - go with what VM. Plus, as you said, what adapters are there, etc.

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            Alex Sage @coliver
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            @coliver said in Today is the day from Hell!:

            Just FYI, this is what I use for patching. I have it setup on a cron schedule.

            https://github.com/antonym/xs_patcher

            Thanks!

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            • momurdaM
              momurda @Dashrender
              last edited by momurda

              @Dashrender said in Today is the day from Hell!:

              So I popped in a new SD Card and installed XS 6.5 again. Went to do updates and decide to just start at the oldest and move my way upward. Well once I reached Sp1 suddenly there was about 35 more - no thanks, don't want to be here forever, already late enough.

              Found this link: http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX138115
              Updated June 14, 2016

              It shows that you can go Install > Sp1 > update 12 > update 24 > update 27 > update 29 > update 32 > update 33.

              Many of the updates are cumulative, do you don't have to install them all from scratch.

              Hope this saves someone some time.

              This is what i did when upgraded past sp1, just installed about 3 or 4 cumulative updates.
              Also, in the future you could save a backup of your XS install with vm/sr info to the local SR, or anywhere else, just in case. It is an option from #xsconsole
              I do this before upgrading usually, and keep it there afterwards.
              edit: ah wait, i see someone mentioned the xsconsole backups.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                This is the second time in two days I've read about XS console - what is the XS console? Do you mean, does Citrix mean, the XS host? Calling it a console is so..... weird.

                But hey, they call the virtual disks that are attached to VMs VDIs - so what do I know?

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda
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                  The root console
                  0_1467304225843_upload-cd40beef-d1be-40fd-9bcf-65910c321bda
                  The xsconsole
                  0_1467304309417_upload-5c653bd6-d231-4d41-8065-344c4f3e2a5d

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said

                    This is the second time in two days I've read about XS console - what is the XS console? Do you mean, does Citrix mean, the XS host? Calling it a console is so..... weird.

                    But hey, they call the virtual disks that are attached to VMs VDIs - so what do I know?

                    PIPE DOWN! Do you want your servers hearing you and crashing again?????

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @momurda
                      last edited by

                      @momurda said

                      The xsconsole

                      Was redacting that address really necessary? 🙂

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                      • momurdaM
                        momurda
                        last edited by

                        probably not

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @momurda
                          last edited by

                          @momurda said

                          probably not

                          If someone can find you with that, you've got a real hacker on your hands!

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @momurda
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                            @momurda said in Today is the day from Hell!:

                            The root console
                            0_1467304225843_upload-cd40beef-d1be-40fd-9bcf-65910c321bda
                            The xsconsole
                            0_1467304309417_upload-5c653bd6-d231-4d41-8065-344c4f3e2a5d

                            Psst - give greenshot a try - it's a free screen capture utility that has cool bluring features for bluring whatever you don't want read.

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                              Alex Sage
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                              @Dashrender Hope your having a better day today 🙂

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @Alex Sage
                                last edited by

                                @aaronstuder said in Today is the day from Hell!:

                                @Dashrender Hope your having a better day today 🙂

                                I'm having an OK one. Now if we could just keep employees from quitting.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Today is the day from Hell!:

                                  @aaronstuder said in Today is the day from Hell!:

                                  @Dashrender Hope your having a better day today 🙂

                                  I'm having an OK one. Now if we could just keep employees from quitting.

                                  I like a combination of leg hold traps and empty promises

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                                    Alex Sage @MattSpeller
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                                    @MattSpeller contacts with ridiculous buyouts work well too.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      In the vein of EXT vs LVM and LVM "partitions"....

                                      In the directions, it says to find the SCSI ID of the device/partition where the SR data is stored.

                                      Here is my list.

                                      
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Jul 28 10:15 ata-HITACHI_HTS725050A9A364_101114PCK404VLKX3J2J -> ../../sda
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Jul 28 10:15 ata-KINGSTON_KW-S34480-4W1_50026B7256062EA5 -> ../../sdb
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Jul 28 10:15 ata-WDC_WD800JD-75MSA3_WD-WMAM9CVU1256 -> ../../sdc
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 28 10:15 ata-WDC_WD800JD-75MSA3_WD-WMAM9CVU1256-part1 -> ../../sdc1
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 28 10:15 ata-WDC_WD800JD-75MSA3_WD-WMAM9CVU1256-part2 -> ../../sdc2
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 28 10:15 ata-WDC_WD800JD-75MSA3_WD-WMAM9CVU1256-part3 -> ../../sdc3
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 28 10:15 ata-WDC_WD800JD-75MSA3_WD-WMAM9CVU1256-part5 -> ../../sdc5
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 28 10:15 ata-WDC_WD800JD-75MSA3_WD-WMAM9CVU1256-part6 -> ../../sdc6
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 28 11:14 dm-name-XSLocalEXT--40f7cced--9587--c38f--e152--057e4ec2b2d0-40f7cced--9587--c38f--e152--057e4ec2b2d0 -> ../../dm-1
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 28 10:04 dm-name-XSLocalEXT--dba1e375--4e51--7e22--a64b--e7bcc39db67a-dba1e375--4e51--7e22--a64b--e7bcc39db67a -> ../../dm-0
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 28 11:14 dm-uuid-LVM-3F38x8Jz47oaL9oGSflGJbtudHmg0iB58aT2PLBzJ1blhfOYFHYsKioY3LpIVhvh -> ../../dm-1
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 28 10:04 dm-uuid-LVM-ssNVRZji8uJzgesTM3EGZ0vTo7k9MEjd3K9U1rXFHGTNWolwQ8eAe363oDjRu34r -> ../../dm-0
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Jul 28 10:15 wwn-0x5000cca5b5f70e1c -> ../../sda
                                      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Jul 28 10:15 wwn-0x50026b7256062ea5 -> ../../sdb
                                      

                                      Because XS by default uses the entire SR storage device as LVM, with an EXT parition, is that why you'd select the whole device here? (I selected ata-KINGSTON_KW-S34480-4W1_50026B7256062EA5 (/dev/sdb) from my list.)

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill It wan'ts the SCSI ID, because that ID shouldn't ever change. That same drive might become sdd if you add/remove drives, but the SCSI ID will remain the same.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @travisdh1
                                          last edited by

                                          @travisdh1 said in Today is the day from Hell!:

                                          @BRRABill It wan'ts the SCSI ID, because that ID shouldn't ever change. That same drive might become sdd if you add/remove drives, but the SCSI ID will remain the same.

                                          What I mean is, it says drive or partition.

                                          So if the entire drive is using a LVM "partition" than it doesn't show as a partition. You would just give it the entire drive SCSI ID.

                                          But, say it was on /sdc5 ... you'd give it the SCSI ID for that partition?

                                          Still just shoring up my EXT/LVM knowledge.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said in Today is the day from Hell!:

                                            So if the entire drive is using a LVM "partition" than it doesn't show as a partition. You would just give it the entire drive SCSI ID.

                                            But, say it was on /sdc5 ... you'd give it the SCSI ID for that partition?

                                            This is confusing, so maybe this will help...

                                            /dev/sdc is a drive
                                            /dev/sdc5 is a partition on that drive

                                            If you put LVM on /dev/sdc there is no partitions and LVM uses the entire drive.
                                            If you put LVM on /dev/sdc5 there is a partition and LVM uses the entire partition. That partition MIGHT use the entire drive or not.

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