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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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      @Breffni-Potter said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

      Why do the other providers have harsher filters with lower numbers?

      Most have little to no means to see all of the data. Google Analytics, for example, has a lot of data but misses a lot of the traffic. It can't read what is going on inside of the NodeBB platform. So it misses things like moving from one thread to another. Anything on the server misses anything picked up the cache and so forth. CF is unique in collecting the data first, before different systems pick up the parts.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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        @Breffni-Potter said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

        What else are you using for analytics? Has that equally gone up?

        What else is there? Not sure what else is capable of collecting the data.

        I should say... if early June is an indicator, this will be a record month. But it is far too early to tell. But it is possible to know what causes increases or decreases in traffic month to month. It fluctuates a lot so very hard to determine individual causes.

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          Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said

          So it misses things like moving from one thread to another. Anything on the server misses anything picked up the cache and so forth. CF is unique in collecting the data first, before different systems pick up the parts.

          Doesn't google analytics track by the URL as nodebb is not 1 single page. From what I've seen of it you can monitor real data on your users. Gender, age groups, other interests, bounce-rate, how long they spend on each page, what's the record page where viewers remain.

          If I say my website has X number of visitors per day based on an extremely broad filter on what is considered a unique visitor. Should I feel confident in telling the world those stats?

          @scottalanmiller said

          What else is there? Not sure what else is capable of collecting the data.

          Well, what does Google Analytics think? What are the numbers from that? Can we weigh the conservative V the liberal stats?

          There are a huge number of other analytics tools as well, some of them are incredibly invasive, they can even give you the name of the business who looked at your website based on the external IP, show the pages you read, show who is who at the company, lots of data.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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            @Breffni-Potter said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

            Doesn't google analytics track by the URL as nodebb is not 1 single page.

            It is one single page, actually. The URL changing is part of the REST API, but does not denote page loads. So GA can't tell what is happening.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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              @Breffni-Potter said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

              If I say my website has X number of visitors per day based on an extremely broad filter on what is considered a unique visitor. Should I feel confident in telling the world those stats?

              CF and NodeBB have very close numbers as to unique users, as they should. So that looks to be very accurate.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                @Breffni-Potter said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                Doesn't google analytics track by the URL as nodebb is not 1 single page. From what I've seen of it you can monitor real data on your users. Gender, age groups, other interests, bounce-rate, how long they spend on each page, what's the record page where viewers remain.

                It collects user data, yes. But information about their engagement it cannot gather from a custom web application that has no normal web server.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                  @Breffni-Potter said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                  There are a huge number of other analytics tools as well, some of them are incredibly invasive, they can even give you the name of the business who looked at your website based on the external IP, show the pages you read, show who is who at the company, lots of data.

                  Yes, but can any of them give data on the traffic? Google can't. I don't know how anything could. NodeBB itself can gather one type of data and the CDN (CF in this case) can gather another. I'm not sure how any tool could give more accuracy without tapping directly into one or the other of those.

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                  • Deleted74295D
                    Deleted74295 Banned
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                    Well what traffic data are you looking for?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                      @Breffni-Potter said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                      Well what traffic data are you looking for?

                      All of it would be nice 🙂 I'm sure Google has some interesting data, even if the volumes are incorrect. The stuff we are discussing here though is just volume, and CF and NodeBB likely have the best numbers. Most importantly, they have the only sources for accurate ones.

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
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                        There we go.... a full 12m!!

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                        • nadnerBN
                          nadnerB @mlnews
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                          @mlnews said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

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                          US is the big traffic source, no surprise there. This map makes it hard to see where traffic comes from, but there it is.

                          So, what happened to Brisbane, Sydney and the entire nations of New Zealand, the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu etc ?
                          ...
                          (Just being difficult) 😉

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                          • PSX_DefectorP
                            PSX_Defector @mlnews
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                            @mlnews said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                            Serbia gets talked about a lot, perhaps that has caused us to show up there enough to get a lot of traffic?

                            I'm pretty sure there is one person for the cause of that. 🙂

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                              IcyApril @mlnews
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                              @mlnews Hi; I work for CloudFlare. Just wanted to share a few tips that might be able to help your performance:

                              1. HTTPS - By enabling HTTPS you can allow your users to access your site through HTTP/2 and SPDY, which dramatically improves page load speed. After this is enabled, you can configure HTTP/2 Server Push to get things to be even faster.
                              2. Page Rules - Page Rules allow you to use a "Cache Everything" setting where you can even cache static content.
                              3. On your server be sure to whitelist CloudFlare's IPs to make sure they're not rate limiting your connection to us.
                              4. Ensure correct cache headers are being sent to ensure the content you want to cache, is being cached by us.

                              Hope your enjoying our service so far! Let us know if you need any further help.

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                                Alex Sage @IcyApril
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                                @IcyApril said:

                                1. HTTPS - By enabling HTTPS you can allow your users to access your site through HTTP/2 and SPDY, which dramatically improves page load speed. After this is enabled, you can configure HTTP/2 Server Push to get things to be even faster.

                                lol. How long has this been on @scottalanmiller todo list? It took us 2 years to get email, hopefully we can get this done faster?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Alex Sage
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                                  @aaronstuder said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                                  @IcyApril said:

                                  1. HTTPS - By enabling HTTPS you can allow your users to access your site through HTTP/2 and SPDY, which dramatically improves page load speed. After this is enabled, you can configure HTTP/2 Server Push to get things to be even faster.

                                  lol. How long has this been on @scottalanmiller todo list? It took us 2 years to get email, hopefully we can get this done faster?

                                  We already have HTTPS here at ML, you just have to do it on purpose, it's not forced upon you.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    But when I type HTTPS I get this.

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                                      Alex Sage @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender I am not happy until it is enabled by default, and I get a green lock 🙂

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                                        But when I type HTTPS I get this.

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                                        Probably because the images are hosted by imgur?

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                                          Alex Sage @coliver
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                                          @coliver That's my thought 😞

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