Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines)
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Proe OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Proe OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
I have done many remote upgrades via ScreenConnect. It has worked perfectly every time.
I do grab the GenuineTicket.xml just in case though.
My process.
- Download the current Windows 10 install using the Media Creation Tool.
- Extract GatherOSState.exe and save to some useful network place.
- Move the ISO to some useful network place.
- Go to or remote into user computer.
- Verify user data is backed up someplace.
- Run any pending windows updates.
- Reboot.
- Copy GatherOSState.exe to desktop and run as administrator.
- Move the GenunineTicket.xml to some useful network place.
- Delete GatherOSState.exe from desktop.
- Mount the ISO.
a. If Windows 7, I will use VirtualCloneDrive to mount.
b. Windows 8 mounts natively. - Run setup.exe and follow the prompts.
Since you're running setup from inside Windows 7, running the gatherOSState.exe shouldn't be needed, you're doing a traditional normal upgrade.
I believe i specified that I run in just in case.
To clarify, I know 100% that it is not needed. But if any of the upgrades fail, have zero plan to start over, and the file may be needed.
Never has yet though.
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@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Proe OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Proe OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Proe OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
I have done many remote upgrades via ScreenConnect. It has worked perfectly every time.
I do grab the GenuineTicket.xml just in case though.
My process.
- Download the current Windows 10 install using the Media Creation Tool.
- Extract GatherOSState.exe and save to some useful network place.
- Move the ISO to some useful network place.
- Go to or remote into user computer.
- Verify user data is backed up someplace.
- Run any pending windows updates.
- Reboot.
- Copy GatherOSState.exe to desktop and run as administrator.
- Move the GenunineTicket.xml to some useful network place.
- Delete GatherOSState.exe from desktop.
- Mount the ISO.
a. If Windows 7, I will use VirtualCloneDrive to mount.
b. Windows 8 mounts natively. - Run setup.exe and follow the prompts.
Since you're running setup from inside Windows 7, running the gatherOSState.exe shouldn't be needed, you're doing a traditional normal upgrade.
I believe i specified that I run in just in case.
To clarify, I know 100% that it is not needed. But if any of the upgrades fail, have zero plan to start over, and the file may be needed.
Never has yet though.
I have had GenuineTicket.XML fail and fell back to the Win 7 sticker - and that always works.
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@JaredBusch said
I believe i specified that I run in just in case.
Computers. Shit happens. Good plan!
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@BRRABill said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Proe OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@JaredBusch said
I believe i specified that I run in just in case.
Computers. Shit happens. Good plan!
I wasn't doing it this way, I was saving the XML, then rebuilding with a Win10 USB stick, but that starting being rather unreliable. Switching to standard upgrade mode, while a little longer (oh and I had to say keep my user data, but no programs, as save nothing wouldn't register for me either) did work more reliably.
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@Brains said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Proe OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@Dashrender I was speaking to Microsoft about this situation late last year, and they hinted at purchasing 1 Win10 VL and using that. Im really doubtful due to licensing issues. Do you think it would work?
that's been standard always and MS pushes it heavily. Just takes one VL copy to have imaging rights.
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@Dashrender said
I wasn't doing it this way, I was saving the XML, then rebuilding with a Win10 USB stick, but that starting being rather unreliable. Switching to standard upgrade mode, while a little longer (oh and I had to say keep my user data, but no programs, as save nothing wouldn't register for me either) did work more reliably.
I just mean I personally take backups of backups and always assume something nutty will happen.
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@BRRABill said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Proe OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@Dashrender said
I wasn't doing it this way, I was saving the XML, then rebuilding with a Win10 USB stick, but that starting being rather unreliable. Switching to standard upgrade mode, while a little longer (oh and I had to say keep my user data, but no programs, as save nothing wouldn't register for me either) did work more reliably.
I just mean I personally take backups of backups and always assume something nutty will happen.
yeah I've learned that 2+ backups are required. ug.
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@Dashrender said
yeah I've learned that 2+ backups are required. ug.
A prime example of this was the iPhone backup. Quite a few times, I would do a backup, and then something would happen, and it would back itself up again, thus overwriting the old backup. So I would take a backup, and then backup the backup.
Just typical versioning, but not intuitive when the phone is doing its own thing.
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Thanks everyone for your help. I was able to get my deployments down to 3-4 minutes hands on per desktop by using WSUS to deploy the upgrade. I did have to modify a reg key - AllowOSUpgrade, but everything seemed to work well. Does anyone have any GPO pointers for the transition?
Steps:
- Created Windows 10 WSUS Computer Group. Approved Win10 Retail Upgrade only for that group.
- Made GPO Change for AllowOSUpgrade
- Uninstall Kaspersky From Desktop(s) (Says its not compatible even though it is - wont let me upgrade unless I remove) remotely via Security Center
- Add Computer(s) to WSUS Windows 10 Computer Group
- Log into the machine and click start upgrade (Remote Desktop Connection Manager is useful. I can remote into 10+ computers all at once with my saved credentials)
- 5-10 minutes later, click upgrade now
- Wait
- Physically go to desktop(s) and go through initial 2-3 configuration screens. Disabling M$ spying.
- Reinstall KES
- Done
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@Brains Don't forget the last step of going back and disabling Micrsoft's spies after the updates are complete. One of those every so helpful updates enables all of them.
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something I discovered yesterday, upgrading does not remove the old manually install drivers. I had to go into programs and features and remove them. Then after several mins, windows 10 detected the hardware and installed it's own driver.
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
something I discovered yesterday, upgrading does not remove the old manually install drivers. I had to go into programs and features and remove them. Then after several mins, windows 10 detected the hardware and installed it's own driver.
On this, I have chosen to not install any drivers in my image because all of my gear has detected the network by default on install.
I then let Windows 10 down load whatever it thinks is right after that.
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Windows 10 does pretty good with hardware detection. The only thing I go after is the NVIDIA drivers for my laptop... and even that is by choice.
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@travisdh1 yay! Thats what I love to hear in my healthcare field! Microsoft randomly stealing our PHI! I am going to try to disable it all through GPO if possible, so that it stays static. Do you have any good references that I could use to make sure I get them all?
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Unrelated note, has anyone upgraded a Win7 laptop with dual video cards to Windows 10 yet? I havent spent much time on it yet, planning to this month, but my laptop doesnt even prompt me for the upgrade and doesnt run if I manually instigate the upgrade process.
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@Brains I'm afraid not
I've got very few Windows boxes to deal with, and only one that needs upgraded yet. I've just been running updates and hitting up the "new" control panel settings to disable things. -
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
something I discovered yesterday, upgrading does not remove the old manually install drivers. I had to go into programs and features and remove them. Then after several mins, windows 10 detected the hardware and installed it's own driver.
On this, I have chosen to not install any drivers in my image because all of my gear has detected the network by default on install.
I then let Windows 10 down load whatever it thinks is right after that.
I do the same for typical installs, but the OP specifically says Windows 10 doesn't have the driver for his new laptop.
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
something I discovered yesterday, upgrading does not remove the old manually install drivers. I had to go into programs and features and remove them. Then after several mins, windows 10 detected the hardware and installed it's own driver.
On this, I have chosen to not install any drivers in my image because all of my gear has detected the network by default on install.
I then let Windows 10 down load whatever it thinks is right after that.
I do the same for typical installs, but the OP specifically says Windows 10 doesn't have the driver for his new laptop.
I would not modify my standard image. Just keep that driver someplace.
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@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
something I discovered yesterday, upgrading does not remove the old manually install drivers. I had to go into programs and features and remove them. Then after several mins, windows 10 detected the hardware and installed it's own driver.
On this, I have chosen to not install any drivers in my image because all of my gear has detected the network by default on install.
I then let Windows 10 down load whatever it thinks is right after that.
I do the same for typical installs, but the OP specifically says Windows 10 doesn't have the driver for his new laptop.
I would not modify my standard image. Just keep that driver someplace.
Someplace? like on a USB stick, not having a NIC makes getting some place kinda hard. I suppose anything non driver related I'd be OK with not bothering, but once you find that NICs aren't working regularly, it's time to update the image.
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@BRRABill said in Windows 10 Upgrade - Small Office Domain - Win 7 Pro OEM Licenses (~100 Machines):
@Dashrender said
So you never enter the key? and Windows 10 wasn't previously upgraded on this machine and then rolled back? i.e. Windows 10 has NEVER been installed on this machine before?
Hmmm, now that you mention it, maybe I did install Win10 on it before.
But I think I have done it before. On my own machine in fact.
I will retract until I am 100% sure.
I had a reason to set up a new VM today, and used a Windows 8 key to do a fresh install of Windows 10.
So I think it does indeed work.
